UnconTROLLed
perfection
deleted lol, thought that was PM 
Lunches..taken before work or on route?
- Thread starter BrownAtTheBeach
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grgrcr88
No It's not green grocer!
Agreed
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
I wish ours would do the same.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
We are, technically, not allowed to be at the building more than 15 minutes prior to start time. It's called loitering. This generally isn't enforced until drivers start abusing being on the truck before start time.
klein
Für Meno :)
Now, why is that ?
If the center manager is really nice, why can't he just ask drivers if they want to work thru their lunchbreak, and get paid straight time !
Wouldn't that make more sense ? Besides the drivers will be better rested (1 hr more sleep), and therfore more alert and less likely to have screw-ups or accidents.
Sounds kinda screwey to me, to be there an hr early - then get paid straight time, anyways, afterwards.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Go back and follow the progression of the conversation before you stick your nose into it. Contrary to your own personal belief you DO NOT know everything.
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Anonymous 10
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+1 Just saying
cachsux
Wah
How `d that work for you to take your lunch at the end of the workday there Kleinekin?
brownman15
Well-Known Member
yes it is at least here in 705
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
WOW! That's some pretty serious stuff there bucko. Suprised it didn't get removed as soon as you posted it.
sendagain
Well-Known Member
I used to get to work a half hour early because the traffic sometimes delayed me half an hour, but I would check out my load and see how it looked. Sometimes preload was total chaos and I needed to get on the clock to help load. Other times I had so many nda, that I straightened it out before my start time. How many times I came down to the last minute to get the air off, I can't tell you, but trying to line up 60 nda after the morning meeting was stupidity. The drive to the route usually left me with less than an hour to get the air off.
I also would save my lunch till the end of the day when things got heavy, taking it after my deliveries were all done in the evening. I made sure my customers got all their deliveries and pickups, and I took my breaks when it made sense to take them, not by some preset hour that put my customers in jeopardy and cranked up my stress level. Giving the drivers flexibility on the route just makes good sense.
I also would save my lunch till the end of the day when things got heavy, taking it after my deliveries were all done in the evening. I made sure my customers got all their deliveries and pickups, and I took my breaks when it made sense to take them, not by some preset hour that put my customers in jeopardy and cranked up my stress level. Giving the drivers flexibility on the route just makes good sense.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
UPS made a business decision to enter into a contract that requires you to be paid for all hours worked.
They also made a business decision to dispatch you with a certain number of NDA packages with a certain commit time.
If those two decisions are not compatible, why should you then have to work off of the clock in order to solve their problem?
I faced a similar situation once when the company made a business decision to change the commit time in my area from noon to 10:30 while at the same time refusing to dispatch any additional drivers or make any adjustments to my delivery area or stop count.
Rather than "solving" their problem by coming in early and working off of the clock, I warned my management team ahead of time about their problem and then simply delivered as many as I safely could by 10:30 and allowed the rest to be service failures.
It took a week and about 30 or 40 late air before the consequences of their stupidity became so painful that they could no longer ignore the problem and were instead forced to actually solve it by dispatching the additional drivers that were required in the first place.
Sometimes you have to allow things to fail rather than enabling them to continue.
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Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
That's it in a nutshell!!!
Come on drivers, stop taking the path of least managerial resistance and work toward a solution.
Treating the symptoms does not solve the problems.
It just perpetuates them.
If the center manager "lets" them do it...benefits employee. "Makes" them do it would be a problem.
leastbest
LeastBest
Another thing not mentioned. Say a driver comes in early, takes his lunch before start time. Then I come to work and don't. I want to work like a normal human being and eat lunch in the middle of the day. I'm the bad guy and will be treated accordingly because I'm not a team player. I've been there and it's not a good place to be.
Randy
www.leastbest.com
Randy
www.leastbest.com
My start time is 8:40 a.m. I deliver me nda's, take a 10 minute break at 10:30, followed by my 50 minute lunch, which starts at 10:40, at exactly the beginning of my 3rd hour. Whenever I am asked (which is asked or offered by seniority to all drivers present and available)to help out with preload, and start before my posted start time, I am paid overtime. If I have too much nda's as was previously posted, I notify my sup that I need nda help. If no help is given, and I'm not able to get all nda off in time, then they're late. It doesn't stress me out. Sometimes we create our own stress, and believe me, that's what they want. Don't fall into traps.
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