More gloom and doom..CS is tanking

[hellfire]

Central States had a meeting on 4/8/15.

And hellfire.... says he already has written correspondence.


I call BS.



-Bug-

Is your modus operandi to just automatically dismiss, discredit and argue with all?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

From a previous employer unless it has changed ( again) , were told that we could rollover...

Rollover what? Your pension money? You cannot rollover that which is not yours.

 

[McGee]

Sounds about right.

Some people.... could benefit, by talking to a financial planner.



Huh ?

Someone told you.... you could rollover monies in the Central States pension plan....

in to another one ?



-Bug-

Rollover what? Your pension money? You cannot rollover that which is not yours.

That was what we were told (but is NOT in writing) ...

Boom, welcome to reality huh?

Screwed like all get out...figures..

 

[BigUnionGuy]

OK, now, what uninformed opinions did I cite?

Uh..

AND, I see NOWHERE where UPS is going to guarantee the make-up difference.

If somebody CAN provide me with the exact words that UPS will make it up, I'll be happy to read it but, till then, I DON'T think I'm gonna take em at their word.

Starting at the bottom of pg 218

In over 30 yrs, I was at, almost EVERY meeting we had. At one of our last contract negotiation proposal meetings, there was a total of five, FIVE (5) of us there and 3 of us were feeder drivers. I RETIRED as the feeder steward

Ok.

Maybe, you missed that part. It happens.

I do not detect a note of complaint in any of my posts on this thread.

Understand, this is the internet.

I didn't perceive any of your posts like that.


My questioning can be abrasive.... in a valid attempt, to establish the truth.



-Bug-

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Is your modus operandi to just automatically dismiss, discredit and argue with all?

Since you asked....


Really ?

"modus operandi"

James Bond, has nothing on you.


I appreciate the attempt. (really)



-Bug-

 

[Wally]

 

[hellfire]

Since you asked....


Really ?

"modus operandi"

James Bond, has nothing on you.


I appreciate the attempt. (really)



-Bug-

you manned up to raceanoncr, and i will do the same, I apologize. He took the time to scan and provide the letters so i felt obligated to defend him.

 

[SignificantOwner]

My concern is about the UPS promise to cover any shortages from Central States. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to wiggle out of that agreement.

Pension promises made by UPS or Teamsters execs mean nothing. They made their promises, got contracts ratified, and received their compensation and pats on the back. It's a shame that there's no recourse against those that enriched themselves by making promises that couldn't be kept.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Pension promises made by UPS or Teamsters execs mean nothing. They made their promises, got contracts ratified, and received their compensation and pats on the back. It's a shame that there's no recourse against those that enriched themselves by making promises that couldn't be kept.

Sad but true..

 

[Catatonic]

its a young mans job, imagine a bunch of 60 and 70 yr olds in pc

On-The Job Injuries
Long-term disability

 

[Catatonic]

My wife and I have a friend and his Dad is a retired Teamster. Whenever we see him and Dad is around him and I talk. He still receives a Teamster pension yet the company he worked for is long since out of business.

Did you tell him you are paying for his pension?

 

[Catatonic]

Not even close. I preloaded before I started driving.

I bet you weren't old and gray then!

 

[Catatonic]

On-going discussions here:

http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/more-gloom-and-doom-cs-is-tanking.361251/

 

[Johney]

Did you tell him you are paying for his pension?

Why would I say that? I'm pretty sure I have not wrote him a pension check.

 

[Catatonic]

Why would I say that? I'm pretty sure I have not wrote him a pension check.

I'm sorry.
I did not know you and your friends Dad's relationship does not allow good-natured ribbing.
My apology.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I'm sorry.
I did not know you and your Dad's relationship allows good-natured ribbing.
My apology.

It was his friend's Dad.

Try to keep up.

 

[PT Car Washer]

At 86 my Dad is still collecting a Central States pension check every month. About $600 a month. Pretty sure he is not bankrupting the pension plan.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Anyone who has paid attention knew this was coming even 20 years ago. The question is what will UPS do to protect their Union pensioners.

 

[Packmule]

This is covered in that letter.

I got my letter today too. Didn't see anything mentioned about new plan. I, too, am waiting to see if things work out as promised.

 

[Catatonic]

I got my letter today too. Didn't see anything mentioned about new plan. I, too, am waiting to see if things work out as promised.

Hmmm. I wonder why you got a different letter than everyone else?