DON'T you say it!!
MrFedEx Over and Out
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DON'T you say it!!
rod
Retired 22 years
Well excuse me-- I didn't realize that the Brown Cafe couldn't exist without Fedex'ers.
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pickup
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I learned a lot from Mr. Fedex. I thought that 99.9 percent of his posts were good.. He seemed to have a hangup with Romney being a member of the Mormon church, the beliefs of which are no more fantastic or strange than any other religion(in my opinion). But other than that, he was entertaining at times and at other times, informative.
Good luck with your new website, Mr. Fedex. You might find it is harder to guard your anonymity if your real name is linked(even seemingly hidden) to that website in any way.
Good luck with your new website, Mr. Fedex. You might find it is harder to guard your anonymity if your real name is linked(even seemingly hidden) to that website in any way.
Ricochet1a
Well-Known Member
No... I consider YOU to be a blithering idiot...
Wrong... you choose to put up with it. There are jobs out there - one has to actively look and not expect job offers to arrive in the mail unexpectedly.
For someone in your situation (single, no dependents, no strong ties to where you are currently located, experience in moving around), you have the ability to find other employment and relocate - IF YOU REALLY WANTED. Others with spouses that are working outside the home - and cannot relocate easily, children, a home - that has lost value and cannot be sold without taking a loss right now, family ties in the area which they are currently residing, cannot easily relocate.
You CHOOSE not to expend the effort to find something better and relocate - so you engage in endless exercises rationalizing your current circumstances - thus justifying (to yourself) your current situation and the fact that you are "a victim" of Express and are helpless to do anything to change your circumstances.
I've constantly said people need to evaluate their personal circumstances and look for better employment if they believe that they are truly worth more than Express is compensating them. You have chosen not to do that. That speaks volumes for your perceptions regarding your TRUE capabilities.
You've called yourself a fool for working for Express in this forum. I'm just restating the obvious. You've had close to 15 years this time around - and you're at less than half progression in wage scale. Top out started out taking about 18 months back in the 80s, then gradually increased to 4, 6, 12, 17 years. Now, there is no top out for anyone that isn't within a few percentage points of the top. You've admitted that you were "fooled" into believing the crap coming out of your hiring managers mouths (and other managers mouths). Who's to blame for that? Tens of thousands of other Couriers know better - you don't.
So Express was "a good deal" all the way up till late 2007? You are a fool.
By 2000, wage progression had slowed to a crawl. Fred had secured his RLA status in 1997 and started the take-aways back then. From the employee viewpoint, most didn't recognize it at that time since it was a very insidious process of slowly taking away pay progression and benefits. The real take-away happened when the pension was gutted for no reason other than to pad Fred's pockets even more. Express was a bad deal by the early 2000's, and a raw deal by 2008.
Unions don't only exist to increase wages, they exist to insure that once increased wages are negotiated that work isn't OUTSOURCED. A union contract would have a clause that would prohibit outsourcing of services that can be provided with organized labor.
Vantexan is representative of many Couriers (not 10's of thousands, just a few thousand) that have a line of thought that Express only needs to be "motivated" to pay fairly - a union isn't necessary in order to justifying staying. He's gotten on this forum and more or less stated : "If Express would only top me out, then I wouldn't want a union".
Well, what's to motivate Express to top out employees, or to stop the take aways, or from outsourcing volume in the future - without a union contract in place? There is no motivation for Express to change its behavior, it has paid tens of millions of dollars to obtain and preserve its RLA status (money that could've been paid in compensation if they so choose), in order to PREVENT having to pay out even more in compensation to a unionized workforce.
The IBT is faced with the tremendous obstacle the RLA presents in attempting to organize a company's labor - then having people like vantexan who want to use the threat of unionization against their employer (but would prefer their employer to "blink" without actually unionizing) - why do you think the IBT won't play along with this game?
Vantexan has stated himself that he would support a union drive, BUT if Express were to relent in giving a bump in wages, he'd turn on the union and support the very employer he has talked trash about.
Well genius, what would make you think that once you got your "bump" that the take-aways wouldn't continue at an even faster rate a year later? (Oh that's right, you plan on leaving in 3 years yourself....)
You twist and spin positions in an attempt to justify your situation of CHOICE. If you don't get a pay raise you want, you'd support a union and talk trash about your employer. If your employer were to give you a pay raise you want, you'll be a loyal useful idiot and tell a potential union to take a hike.
So Fred can buy you off with a 10-15% pay raise with no contract in place... You refuse the "SFA hamburger" (because you can't be bought off with a trinket), but you'll take an additional $2.00/hr to be a good drone...
Sounds an awful lot like taking "30 pieces of silver" to me....
One piece just isn't enough it seems...
R1A once again you write a tome trying to impress with your knowledge those who don't know. Top-out never occurred in 18 months, it was 23. These little slip-ups you do from time to time indicate to me you are a union organizer who has spent alot of time learning about FedEx but doesn' quite have it down. I don't believe for a second you were ever an employee.
One thing that bugs me about you is everything is predicated on the notion that it's all about the money. What has kept me going even while knowing I am getting screwed financially is that I enjoy the work while on the road. Not a fan of station life so actively seeking a domiciled location to end my years. But I did enjoy the work itself and took pride in it. It's something you'll never understand. And that's something that 10's of thousands of couriers do understand and have kept them motivated to hang in there.
By your estimation topped out employees are being screwed because they aren't being paid UPS wages and benefits. Topped out employees had a good deal right up until the pension was terminated. And while your hindsight is 20/20 no one in 2000 could have predicted to what lengths FedEx would go to hold down wages and screw over mid-range employees. That came into focus in 2007 with the series of 2% raises or no raise one year. And this year they made it clear that while the company was past the international financial crisis they had no intention to return us to the days of 6.5% raises.
A fool is one who thinks that he's owed a great living with minimal effort. My beef is working hard but not being rewarded for doing so. And being very open about what I've experienced was my way of showing company monitors the lengths their management team will go to to satisfy Memphis and the pain they inflict on their workforce in doing so. You seem to think it's there for your consumption and allows you to take potshots. You are a pathetic little worm who feeds on the efforts of others. I'm almost glad you didn't get your union in.
When I leave FedEx I'll be ok because I've researched every possible avenue for living economically. You on the other hand will keep pursuing the so-called American dream because nothing is more important than proving how brilliant you are to others by showing your achievements with a high priced car and a fancy house. Yeah, that'll show them.
One thing that bugs me about you is everything is predicated on the notion that it's all about the money. What has kept me going even while knowing I am getting screwed financially is that I enjoy the work while on the road. Not a fan of station life so actively seeking a domiciled location to end my years. But I did enjoy the work itself and took pride in it. It's something you'll never understand. And that's something that 10's of thousands of couriers do understand and have kept them motivated to hang in there.
By your estimation topped out employees are being screwed because they aren't being paid UPS wages and benefits. Topped out employees had a good deal right up until the pension was terminated. And while your hindsight is 20/20 no one in 2000 could have predicted to what lengths FedEx would go to hold down wages and screw over mid-range employees. That came into focus in 2007 with the series of 2% raises or no raise one year. And this year they made it clear that while the company was past the international financial crisis they had no intention to return us to the days of 6.5% raises.
A fool is one who thinks that he's owed a great living with minimal effort. My beef is working hard but not being rewarded for doing so. And being very open about what I've experienced was my way of showing company monitors the lengths their management team will go to to satisfy Memphis and the pain they inflict on their workforce in doing so. You seem to think it's there for your consumption and allows you to take potshots. You are a pathetic little worm who feeds on the efforts of others. I'm almost glad you didn't get your union in.
When I leave FedEx I'll be ok because I've researched every possible avenue for living economically. You on the other hand will keep pursuing the so-called American dream because nothing is more important than proving how brilliant you are to others by showing your achievements with a high priced car and a fancy house. Yeah, that'll show them.
xfdxgroundmgmt
Well-Known Member
Good luck to you and the new site. Even if I don't always think everything you say as word, you have some very real and good points.
rod
Retired 22 years
I suppose I should get rid of the tiger but I have this strange feeling he will be back. No way in h-e double toothpicks would I suggest that Fedex people need to or have to jump ship from the BC. (I enjoy reading their complaints about Fred just as much as anyone). I was simply pointing out to those who do should thank Cheryl for setting up a Fedex forum that alllowed them to express their views when she really didn't have to. I don't recall saying that I was "celebrating" Fedex'ers leaving. I also still stand by my statement about not understanding why Fedex employees didn't have their own site to vent. Peace
HomeDelivery
Well-Known Member
they do have their own site
FedExaminer
but it forces the user to always log in; thus it's being "monitored"
here, you can lurk at the various topics without signing up/ registering...
you can't do that over there
hehehe. He said, "member Rod". hehehe
Good one Beavis...
dvalleyjim
Well-Known Member
I got nothing against Fred S, But hey, I want to check out your site.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Not directly related (or maybe it is) but I saw this quote today and immediately thought of MrFedEx:
The difference between libertarianism and socialism is that libertarians will tolerate the existence of a socialist community, but socialists can't tolerate a libertarian community.
dvalleyjim
Well-Known Member
Wow, well you got to admire his stamina and commitment.
franknitty
Well-Known Member
Mr. FedEx I think you creating your own web site is an excellent idea ! I'm looking forward to it ! Make it happen soon !
Well Fedex is turning into a Ground company. Nothing personal.
