quad decade guy
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Why? Lack of range, time to recharge and cost. All of those problems have been all along. With no real solutions in sight.
"Only 1%Why? Lack of range, time to recharge and cost. All of those problems have been all along. With no real solutions in sight.
Maybe for a daily commuter vehicle. Not for road trips."Only 1%
"Only 3%"
"Only 5%"
"Only 10%"
"Onlu 25%"
"Only 50%"
Sorry, I'm filling in your thread titles for the next few years.
All the objections just betray ignorance. The range on many electrics is identical to gas already. They're more convenient to charge than to fill up with gas, and cost-parity is imminent.
No meaningful impact for most people on road trips except the longest or heaviest users, and then the impact is minimal compared to other advantages. And that's current.Maybe for a daily commuter vehicle. Not for road trips.
I understand you are so invested in electric you have to deny any of the disadvantages.No meaningful impact for most people on road trips except the longest or heaviest users, and then the impact is minimal compared to other advantages. And that's current.
I understand wanting to grasp at the very last things that gas can do and hang onto them. I won't stop you. It's your blankey.
I admitted very small disadvantages. They exist. They're small and narrow, but they exist.I understand you are so invested in electric you have to deny any of the disadvantages.
Electric charge times limit travel to the extreme, and charger wait times will only increase with each electric vehicle that hits the road. 100% charge is bad for the batteries, so you immediately lose 20% of your range on the daily, and level 3 chargers cannot be used daily. The truck with its tow charge loss will be even worse for anyone who uses them for work, or toy hauling, and don't get me started on charge degradation in cold weather.No meaningful impact for most people on road trips except the longest or heaviest users, and then the impact is minimal compared to other advantages. And that's current.
I understand wanting to grasp at the very last things that gas can do and hang onto them. I won't stop you. It's your blankey.
100% charge is not bad for batteries if it's only done on a serious road trip, which is a few times a year for most people, at most. No impact on battery life. And batteries will outlast the body of the vehicle now, anyway, almost no matter how you treat it. That's the current state of the technology.Electric charge times limit travel to the extreme, and charger wait times will only increase with each electric vehicle that hits the road. 100% charge is bad for the batteries, so you immediately lose 20% of your range on the daily, and level 3 chargers cannot be used daily. The truck with its tow charge loss will be even worse for anyone who uses them for work, or toy hauling, and don't get me started on charge degradation in cold weather.
Bottom line: middle class America is too instant gratification for current electric tech, and few can afford to buy vehicles simply for road trips, or hauling. Who has time to stop for at least a 1/2 hour every 200 miles (or less depending on charger locations) of a road trip?
You are making stuff up. Like out of thin air. So are they. It's a total joke.With proper care the conservative lifespan of a battery is 100k, and horror stories of tesla cell death and replacement are becoming common place.
How long will my EV battery last? Here’s what to know
The power source for an electric car is an expensive component to replace. Here's how long you can expect a battery to last, and how to extend its life, too.www.marketwatch.com
I researched electric because I was seriously considering pre ordering the Lightning. I educated myself and formed my own conclusions. I think it's safe to say that a lot of Americans will do their research and a fair % will come to the same conclusions that I did.I hope everyone notices how much narrower the complaints get every year. They used to be real complaints. Now, they're laughable.
"But what about long-distance heavy hauling in Canada?! Electrics suck!"
Keep grasping at that blankey. You'll always have something gas does better.
COUGH PUBLIC TRANSIT COUGHWhy? Lack of range, time to recharge and cost. All of those problems have been all along. With no real solutions in sight.
They are. That's why Tesla sold 100k vehicles a few years ago. 1 million vehicles this year. They'll do 2.5 million next year. Etc.I researched electric because I was seriously considering pre ordering the Lightning. I educated myself and formed my own conclusions. I think it's safe to say that a lot of Americans will do their research and a fair % will come to the same conclusions that I did.
Bravo!Electric charge times limit travel to the extreme, and charger wait times will only increase with each electric vehicle that hits the road. 100% charge is bad for the batteries, so you immediately lose 20% of your range on the daily, and level 3 chargers cannot be used daily. The truck with its tow charge loss will be even worse for anyone who uses them for work, or toy hauling, and don't get me started on charge degradation in cold weather.
Bottom line: middle class America is too instant gratification for current electric tech, and few can afford to buy vehicles simply for road trips, or hauling. Who has time to stop for at least a 1/2 hour every 200 miles (or less depending on charger locations) of a road trip?
I guess Market watch and Car and Driver made it up too. Just because a battery can technically work after 200,000 means nothing if it has degraded to the point of needing recharged every 50 miles. All the evidence I need of Lithium degradation can be found in my cordless power tools.You are making stuff up. Like out of thin air. So are they. It's a total joke.
If you buy a new Tesla when a kid is born, he'll be able to drive it in college and then, when the body finally rusts out, you can take out the battery and use it for home battery backup. lol.