ralph nader on expectations, the american dream, corporate welfare

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by rickyb, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    ralph nader on expectations, the american dream, corporate welfare.

    im 2/3rds into it. regarding expectations he compares america to every other developed country. also goes into tax payer money funding large parts of the economy.

    this is part 2 of a massive 10 hour lecture ralph did on how you can change america.

     
  2. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    He always reminded me of Pat Paulsen who ran for President as well.

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  3. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    For anyone under the age of 50 , you'll have to google to understand this thread .
     
  4. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

    That guy just looks depressed.
     
  5. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    I'm north of 50. I have actually voted for Nader for president.
     
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    He was actually a very funny comedian who appeared several times on the Smother Brothers show. His was a much more subtle comedy (think Stephen Wright) which would not appeal to today's milleniels, who prefer to have everything spoon fed to them.
     
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  7. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    A few people even voted for Paulsen. He finished 2nd in a few states a couple of times.
     
  8. FrigidFTSup

    FrigidFTSup Resident Suit

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  9. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    Some things you shouldn't admit too.

    just saying
     
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    What about McGovern?
     
  11. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I turned 18 in October of that year (1972) off at college so I did not vote.
    I had zero political interest at that time.

    Sorry, I honestly don't know anything about him or his views.
     
  12. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    I also voted for Perot.
    If he/she ain't a politician, they have my vote.
     
  13. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    Netflix had an excellent doc on nader. not sure if its still there.

    I voted for him.
     
  14. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    I voted for Perot the first time as well.
    I vote Libertarian if on ballot and probably 70% Repub if not and 30% Democrat if I vote on that position.
    Many times, if there is no Libertarian, I don't vote.

    That's all I got to say about that.
     
  15. Sportello

    Sportello Well-Known Member

    I was able to vote in the 1972 Presidential election for the first time, as well. I was also able to legally have a drink in a bar. I remember walking in the rain to vote that evening. It was a cold, miserable night, but I could finally vote.

    I walked into the voting hall, a protestant church at the time, I think, and proudly cast my vote for Gus hall. I then proceeded to the nearby Belgium bar for a nice ale and some mussels.

    Good times.
     
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  16. olroadbeech

    olroadbeech Happy Verified UPSer

    the problem with Nader was he wasn't devious enough to be a politician.
     
  17. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    im reading david cay johnstons free lunch which is on all the ways corporations get subsidies from the government.

    theres some major outdoors enthusiasts store and in 3 years since it went public, it got more money in subsidies than it did in profits lol. i think the number was $290 million in 3 years. it got one subsidy from a small town which apparently amounted to the whole government budget for 10 years.
     
  18. newfie

    newfie Well-Known Member

    a subsidy as in a monetary award or did you mean a tax break in which they were required to pay less into the government coffers as an incentive for expanding the business and creating additional jobs?
     
  19. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    go look it up!
     
  20. DriveInDriveOut

    DriveInDriveOut The One Who Knocks

    What's the difference?