Should Bush, Cheney and even Obama be Concerned?

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by wkmac, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

  2. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    It's amazing what can happen when you don't place your leaders above the rule of law.
     
  3. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member

    wkmac,
    You make a good point when you mention Bush, Cheney and Obama.
    I am sure there are dozens of other well known political names we could add to the mix ---two that come immediately to mind --Bill Clinton and the present Attorney General Holder.
    While Obama cries about what happened under the Bush administration --some seem to forget the vigorous Rendition practices of the Clinton Administration and the then Assistant Attorney General Holder.
    I say put none of them "on trial" --but if you want Bush and Cheney ---alot of others will follow !!
     
  4. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    While we're on the subject I think we need an investigation to see what Obama cabinet official gave Abc news classified information when they revealed the CIA's secret interrogation facility in Lithuania.
     
  5. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    If they find out who it was they should give them a medal.
     
  6. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    Yep try the bush official that violates classified information but give the Obama official a medal. Oh the games we play:surprised:
     
  7. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    island,
    I would also agree with Clinton because of his actions related to Bosnia and even Iraq. Seems like when needed because of some disclosure of some personal indiscretion, some foreigner in some foreign land was gonna die that night so political operatives could "wag the dog!"

    It was so obvious even the so-called liberal Hollywood made a movie of it all!

    [video=youtube;LpqUR3cwPrs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpqUR3cwPrs[/video]
     
  8. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Actually he was convicted of lying and obstruction, ie, not revealing information. If he had told the truth things would have been much more interesting. It's not the act of revealing classified information, per se, that bothers me. I view classified information in the interest of national security as a necessary evil that is far to open to abuse. Once the government grants itself the power to classify information, it has a tendency to start classifying everything that it doesn't want you (the taxpayer) to know about, very often for reasons that have nothing to with the justification. For instance, maintaining secret detention centers outside the US where detainees can be held forever without representation or trial. People who reveal that type of classified information are doing the right thing, in my judgment. For what it's worth I doubt the Obama administration had anything to with with revealing classified info. Since they took over Obama has been doing everything in his power to obstruct any sort of meaningful investigation into anything that might have occurred under the previous administration. Bush and Cheney's secrets will be safe if he has anything to say about it.
     
  9. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Very well put. One area where Obama has been a major disappointment and other than maybe Russ Feingold and a handful more democrats, the democrat party has in fact done everything it could stall and roadblock any and all efforts of uncovering the truth. Amazing for 8 years all we heard was the lawbreaking, wrongdoing and now the opportunity to prove it and the party of change and transparency takes a powder!

    Hey Jones, a little pictorial humor I found pretty funny. Not sure why but something in this thread just brought these 2 images to mind and thought you might enjoy the laugh with me.
    :wink2:

    "I voted for Bush. Twice!"



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  10. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

     
  11. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

     
  12. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

     
  13. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    Hey Jones something about this thread reminded me of this. Join me in a laugh.

    Duh , I'm too smart to vote for someone. Duh that way I can mock others who exercised their vote. Duh huh huh duh.
     
  14. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

     
  15. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Eh, I might have misunderstood the following exchange:

    You were responding to my post, so I assumed you were suggesting that "I" was being hypocritical in some way. If you were just commenting on politics in general, then I basically agree with you.
     
  16. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    After listening more and more of what Sibel Edmonds has to say, I believe Plame's exposure was for the purpose of outing B, Jennings and Associates as an undercover front before they could bust open the Turkish, Pakistani, Israeli nuke weapons trade that alleges links to persons within our own gov't. IMO, these same persons have turned the motive into a non-event because to many questions would start to rise to the top if the real reason got out.

    jmo.

    See wiki on B Jennings and Nuke investigation
     
  17. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Let's see, I agreed with Jones before and I was accused of being a liberal. I wonder if the standards still apply?

    Oh silly me, I bet it means Jones is a Conservative instead!
    :wink2:
     
  18. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

     
  19. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

     
  20. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    For a lot of years 'ol jones thought he was a conservative. I can't keep track anymore though :happy-very: