States begin process of neutering Obamacare

[Catatonic]

South Carolina set to enact law that prohibits state employees to act on or perform tasks to implement or support Obamacare.
This should be interesting!

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/current-events/south-carolina-is-about-to-nullify-obamacare

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Obamacare is a Federal mandate----states that fail to comply risk losing federal funding.

 

[Catatonic]

Obamacare is a Federal mandate----states that fail to comply risk losing federal funding.

That's a thought ... perhaps all the slugs will migrate to another state or die off.

 

[bbsam]

Would they only have healthcare dollars cut out or highway and other federal monies?

 

[roadrunner2012]

That's a thought ... perhaps all the slugs will migrate to another state or die off.

I'm pretty sure the States that adopt the ACA will be better off.

 

[Catatonic]

Would they only have healthcare dollars cut out or highway and other federal monies?

Doesn't matter.
Turn the Interstates into Tollways and give SC citizens a rebate on costs to use them.

 

[Nimnim]

I'm pretty sure the States that adopt the ACA will be better off.

Well there's no way to know for sure unless SC is successful in this else they'll all have adopted it.

I'm sure we can agree that if SC is successful in this and they end up worse off they'll either reverse course or be voted out for people who will reverse course.

 

[Catatonic]

I'm pretty sure the States that adopt the ACA will be better off.

I'm sure it's the other way around.
States that have a required balanced budget in their constitution have rejected the ACA program. The numbers don't lie.

 

[Catatonic]

Well there's no way to know for sure unless SC is successful in this else they'll all have adopted it.

I'm sure we can agree that if SC is successful in this and they end up worse off they'll either reverse course or be voted out for people who will reverse course.

What happens if they are successful?

 

[bbsam]

Doesn't matter.
Turn the Interstates into Tollways and give SC citizens a rebate on costs to use them.

doesn't usually happen that way. That's why the drinking age is 21 nationwide.

 

[Catatonic]

doesn't usually happen that way. That's why the drinking age is 21 nationwide.

Not everyone is a conservative holding on with their claws to the old way of thinking or doing things.

 

[Nimnim]

What happens if they are successful?

If SC is successful and they end up better off than the rest of the country that just accepted the ACA, I can see other states trying to follow suit, Dem organizations trying to make it seem like SC is worse off, and Rep organizations trying to take credit for it.

 

[bbsam]

Not everyone is a conservative holding on with their claws to the old way of thinking or doing things.

when has the "Libertarian" way ever changed things? It always sound good and never, ever comes into fruition. Thinking a certain new way is fine, but I'd love to see results. Until then, the "old way" is all there really is.

 

[roadrunner2012]

I'm sure it's the other way around.
States that have a required balanced budget in their constitution have rejected the ACA program. The numbers don't lie.

I assume you are talking about the Medicaid expansion, not the ACA. The ACA is the law of the land. A state cannot opt out of the ACA.

Most intelligent, non partisan, observers see the benefit of the Mediaid expansion. See cbpp.org, kff.org and nasmhpd.org (among others) for a reasoned explanation. Check Rense.com and infowars.com for reasons not to expand Medicaid.

 

[Catatonic]

I assume you are talking about the Medicaid expansion, not the ACA. The ACA is the law of the land. A state cannot opt out of the ACA.

Yep.
The Medicaid expansion is part of ACA.
National Government suckers in states for 3 years of free and then it will bleed the states dry.

I also included the exchange sites and funding.
Same story.

States that have a balanced budget requirement usually have the will to resist the free funds up front followed by years of enslavement.

 

[bbsam]

That all sounds somewhat familiar. Like the states that decried the federal stimulus on the front steps of their state capitols--and quietly brought 97% of their stimulus money in through the back door.

 

[Catatonic]

That all sounds somewhat familiar. Like the states that decried the federal stimulus on the front steps of their state capitols--and quietly brought 97% of their stimulus money in through the back door.

Possibly but it makes for good politics and newsreel.

 

[bbsam]

Possibly but it makes for good politics and newsreel.

Exactly. And that's why there will be no "new way".

 

[MenInBrown]

I assume you are talking about the Medicaid expansion, not the ACA. The ACA is the law of the land. A state cannot opt out of the ACA.

Most intelligent, non partisan, observers see the benefit of the Mediaid expansion. See cbpp.org, kff.org and nasmhpd.org (among others) for a reasoned explanation. Check Rense.com and infowars.com for reasons not to expand Medicaid.

Since when has the"law of the land meant anything?"

 

[roadrunner2012]

Since when has the"law of the land meant anything?"

Try growing cannabis on your Federally subsidized farm and let us know how that turns out.