So I know I'm not the only contractor running supplementals. Our terminal alone with 4 contractors we have 8 sups rolling. Our terminal averages 1100 stops and 3500 miles with 11 psa. It's sounds like we don't have a lot of stops but our grid that we cover is 85% rural. If you break it down with the amount of PSA allotted for our terminal each PSA is running 100 stops and 350 miles. I believe it averages a min a stop and an average mph ranges from 13mph-25mph depending on territory and mileage between stops. So at 100 stops that's an 1:40 min just in stops and let's say the mph average at 25 with 350 miles that's 14 hours, so a total of 15.5 hours per PSA. Let's be real 11 PSA for the amount of miles and stops don't add up. At 19 trucks that we are running we average 58 stops and 202 miles. So thats an average of 1 hour to deliver and let's say average mph at 202 is 21 mph that 9.6 hours of driving. That means our drivers are averaging 10.5 hours per driver with supplementals included. Are all terminals like this or does it seem like we are way behind. Also in four years we have only been give 3 PSA we have doubled in 4 years so things just don't at up. Don't get me wrong I love being a contractor but the cost is now break even and I'm looking having to add more sups for myself and the other contractors are bleeding and it seems like we all will be going under without more PSA give to absorb the the cost of running.