The Founding Fathers Were Scoundrels!

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by wkmac, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member


    The Lost Story of the American Revolution
     
  2. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

  3. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    from chris hedges article:

    the rich, throughout history, have found methods and subterfuges to subjugate and resubjugate the working class. And workers have cyclically awoken throughout history to revolt. The founding fathers, largely wealthy slaveholders, feared direct democracy and enthusiastically embraced the slaughter of indigenous peoples to seize their land and resources. They rigged our political process to thwart popular rule and protect the property rights of the native aristocracy. The laboring classes were to be kept at bay. The electoral college, the original power of the states to appoint senators, and the disenfranchisement of women, Native Americans, African Americans, and men without property locked most people out of the democratic process at the beginning of the republic. We had to fight for our rights and our voice. Hundreds of workers attempting to form unions were killed and thousands were wounded in our labor wars. Tens of thousands more were fired and blacklisted.


    The democratic openings we achieved were fought and paid for with the blood of abolitionists, African Americans, suffragists, workers, and antiwar and civil rights activists. Our radical movements, repressed and ruthlessly dismantled in the name of anticommunism, were the real engines of equality and social justice.
     
  4. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    So how did the Canadian gov't get control over their land ?
    Did they do honest trades with the native population ?
     
  5. newfie

    newfie Well-Known Member

    wow they weren't gods send here from the heavens? Shocker!!
     
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  6. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    The Founding Fathers did lead the war for independence from Britain. But they did not do it for the equal right of all to life, liberty, and equality. Their intention was to set up a new government that would protect the property of slave owners, land speculators, merchants, and bondholders. Independence from England had already been secured in parts of the country by grassroots rebellion a year before the battles at Lexington and Concord that initiated hostilities with Britain. - howard zinn
     
  7. newfie

    newfie Well-Known Member

    so now a Canadian thinks he speaks for the founding fathers?
     
  8. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Watching 2 Canadians debate each other, I'm reminded that Article XI of the Articles of Confederation called for Canada to be extended the invitation to join the young nation known as the United States. On March 1, 1781' the official invitation was in fact made. Fascinating the thought had they accepted.
     
  9. rickyb

    rickyb Well-Known Member

    from a chris hedges article:

    The framers of the Constitution established a series of mechanisms to thwart the popular will, from the electoral college to the appointment of senators, buttressed by the disenfranchisement of African Americans, women, Native Americans, and the landless. George Washington, probably the wealthiest man in the country when the war was over—much of his money was earned by speculating on seized Indian land—shared exclusive economic and political power with his fellow aristocrats. This distrust of popular rule among the elite runs in a straight line from The Federalist Papers and the Constitutional Convention of 1787 to the 2000 presidential election, where the Democratic candidate, Al Gore, received over half a million more popular votes than the Republican George W. Bush
     
  10. newfie

    newfie Well-Known Member

    sounds like you have a lot of problems in Canada
     
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  11. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

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  12. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member