Thread Themes

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Channahon, Mar 4, 2007.

  1. Channahon

    Channahon New Member

    I joined this site in December 2006 and the recurring theme is many threads are:

    1. Hourly vs. management
    2. Hourly vs. Teamsters
    3. Teamsters vs APWA
    4. Management vs.hourly
    5. Disrespect for others opinions/disagreements

    On the other hand, there are some intelligent people that post information that is useful, fun to read and amusing.

    I would think all of us have enough stress working, why bring it to the board?.
  2. wyobill

    wyobill New Member

    I cannot disagree with you but everyone is different and have different opions.
    My concern is to keep U.P.S the Gorilla's of the industry and make ups a better a place to work and retire from. The only way this is possile is to have change for the better.
    This web site is a great way to express concerns , issues,
    contracts, and what ever else is on your mind.
    Thank You to ever created the Brown Cafe!
  3. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    That would be Cheryl.

    And yes it is a wonderful place for all to visit, learn, make friends, and share interests and stories. And ocasionally frustrations and ask for help.
  4. helenofcalifornia

    helenofcalifornia Well-Known Member

    It does seem to be getting a bit vicious lately. I like this site for the exchange of information on how other centers/hubs run. I always thought that UPS was the same all over, but it's not. (I thought once you bid a route it was yours until retired, not realizing UPS has drivers bid on package routes yearly. Yikes!!) I also now realize that there are idiots everywhere, not just supervising feeders. There are lots of hourly workers who have alot to learn, and management too.
  5. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    Its true that there seems be a trend in the negativity department lately, but the animosity is usually between 2 or 3 people with different opinions.Overall IMO I think a lot of us
    are feeling the winter blues,and the spring may help create an
    overall better mood .The positive threads far outweigh the
    "thems fightin` words" ones so all in all, the brown cafe` is
    just as fresh as it ever was thanks to the other 99.9 percent of the people who post here.
  6. Channahon

    Channahon New Member

    You bring up a good point about cabin fever, I myself can't wait to dust off my golf clubs and start swinging again and enjoy the day.
  7. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    79 degrees here today....good golfing weather !!
  8. helenofcalifornia

    helenofcalifornia Well-Known Member

    Well, if you lived in California you would be playing today in 70 degree weather! Thank you global warming!
  9. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    "...a trend in the negativity department lately,"

    Do you think it's because there's sooooo many members now? I'm NOT saying that's a bad thing. 249 member visits in the last 24 hours. A year ago there would be less than half that.

    BrownCafe has grown big-time. We've added police.... ! More people equals more negativity, but hopefully it equals more positivity too!
  10. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    Thats right blame it on SAD!!!!!!!!! seasonal affective disorder, or for those of us in the north and midwest, lack of sun. Or we are freaking tired of climbing through snowbanks!!!! If I remember correctly January sees the most suicides, although it begins with the Christmas season, and we saw one of those on here.

    Everyone feels better when the sun shines once in a while.

    With the increased traffic, we will get both, happy and mad people, angered at feeling bad about their jobs and people who are happy to be getting a job.
    I like my job, most of us do, but certain factors are ruining the joy, or satisfaction that we used to get from it, while people on the other "side", so to speak are being angered by the pressures being put on them, I dont know if the sun will fix it all, but it will help.

    Then there are those in CA who dont have a clue what winter depression could be like, except the ones who used to live here and moved, That would be moreluck for one!! Yeah I know you are smiling, in your shorts by your pool!!!! hahahaha It will be 10 degrees tonight, seems the stupid groundhog was wrong again.
  11. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    If it drops below 70 Moreluck heads to her place in Hawaii.
  12. tonytiger

    tonytiger Member

    So if someone brings a post to browncafe that is not informative & creative to your standards, that person is not intelligent? I certainly hope that this is not what you meant.
  13. Channahon

    Channahon New Member

    I was merely stating the themes on most of the threads and not to sound negative, also made a positive statement.

    Apparently, you didn't perceive my post that way.
  14. Is it me or does it seem like management is not really welcome here? I get that feeling. If so then maybe someone should create another similar site for management.

    Guess what folks...there are some serious winds floating around the company that could have LOTS of people up and down the company having strong opinions in the near future.

    UPS is in big trouble, the ship has hit an iceberg, and the band is still playing.

    Seems like it would be nice to have a place where everyone is welcome without having to deal with the negativity. I can tell you that just about everyone I know in mgmt regularly visits this site and reads, but most just consider it a "union member" site due to many comments they read here.
  15. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    If you can't stand the heat....well, you know the rest.
  16. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    "Guess what folks...there are some serious winds floating around the company..."

    Well, instead of ending your lame-a** post there, Why don't you tell us about these "serious winds"??
  17. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    DM was in our center today blowing wind. Is that what you meant?
  18. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    Good point.

    Maybe we can petition Cheryl to change the name of this website to:
    "wine and roses" or;
    "butterfly kisses and lollipops" or;
    "the good ship lollipop" or;
    "leave it to beaver"

    With the exception of one frequent management poster, management has always been a rather secretive society to the extent that the aforementioned management poster does most of his communication with his "brotherhood" by PM.

    I guess it depends on which end of the "screwing" you happen to be on would depend the nature of one's post's here.

    Maybe management needs to start their own website to snuggle up on. :thumbup1:
  19. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Anon....maybe you'd like to register before you start moving the furniture around. Where should I go?? I've never worked for UPS !!
  20. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    Everyone you know?
    Do you sit around the conference table every morning
    and discuss the previous nights posts?(BCM?)

    Some negativity is necessary .Life&Death,Yin&Yang,
    Pro&Con,the fact is when you get hundreds of upsers
    together in one place,where thier opinion is actually
    worth something,theres going to be some disagreement.

    This site is neither pro or con towards management
    and union.Its just a place to gather,share,and give
    or take advice.

    All you mngmt people dont be shy,become a member
    and together,maybe we can git`er done.