A simple garden hose and one can get their gas free, as long as you don't get caught.To add to that, I believe it is only $.29/gallon in Venezuela.
US citizens do not have a clue.Gas may only be .29 in Carracas, but I'd rather pay the $4 a gallon than to trade in our sewer system and other modern conviences. Have you seen the shacks there stacked on top of each other with open pipes flowing down on the property below?? Terrible poverty and unsanitary conditions.
To add to that, I believe it is only $.29/gallon in Venezuela.
My sources tell me it will top off at about $135 and then be $90 to $95 by November. My sources are gas speculators- take it or leave it.several countries subsidize gas for their citizens. The fact is there is a shortage. A supply of 85 million barrels and a demand of 87 million barrels a day. Oil will hit $150 by the end of the year.
A little off subject here but is there a car that you can buy that can run on batteries alone? If not, what would be the biggest hangup for a car company to start making and selling these types of vehicles, especially for a daily to work and back car.
~135 mpg
Gallons of what?
I hope it gets to $200 a barrel and $8 or $9 a gallon. Seriously. The reality is that we could produce ALL our own fuel from algae, soy, and other renewable resources if we were willing to invest the $$. Renewable fuels cannot compete with cheap oil, but if the cost of imported crude keeps climbing it will force us to start making better choices. I made a choice 2 years ago to drive a car that gets almost 40 MPG on biodiesel, I have no sympathy at all for someone who chose to pay 30 grand for a full-sized SUV and now complains about the cost of fueling it.
I hope it gets to $200 a barrel and $8 or $9 a gallon. Seriously. The reality is that we could produce ALL our own fuel from algae, soy, and other renewable resources if we were willing to invest the $$. Renewable fuels cannot compete with cheap oil, but if the cost of imported crude keeps climbing it will force us to start making better choices. I made a choice 2 years ago to drive a car that gets almost 40 MPG on biodiesel, I have no sympathy at all for someone who chose to pay 30 grand for a full-sized SUV and now complains about the cost of fueling it.
Sober,
I think its an important and interesting topic. However, I attended a conference recently and reviewed some research on biofuel.
I don't remember all the details, but the conclusion from the university research was that about 17% of our needs could be met with biofuel.
They also analyzed the efficiency of soy vs. corn. Corn was a clear winner in the amount of resources needed to produce fuel.
I think another question will be how much land and water we can devote to biofuel. If resources (land / water) are used for fuel, will this impact food prices.
Who knows, this demand may make farming profitable again.
P-Man
Biofuels from agricultural products are a dead end. The real solution is biodiesel produced from algae. Algae can be farmed in the desert, using brackish water or even untreated sewage. It wouldn't require arable land and it doesnt have to compete with food.Sober,
I think its an important and interesting topic. However, I attended a conference recently and reviewed some research on biofuel.
I don't remember all the details, but the conclusion from the university research was that about 17% of our needs could be met with biofuel.
They also analyzed the efficiency of soy vs. corn. Corn was a clear winner in the amount of resources needed to produce fuel.
I think another question will be how much land and water we can devote to biofuel. If resources (land / water) are used for fuel, will this impact food prices.
Who knows, this demand may make farming profitable again.
P-Man
We get about 1/3 of our oil from Canada, a large portion of which is produced from the tar sands of Alberta. It takes about 7 barrels of water to produce a barrel of oil from the tar sands. Water is too precious of a commodity to be wasted to get a ratio like that.Do you realize how much water is used to process ethanol? I think it is like 2 gallons for every gallon of ethanol that is produced. Water is too precious of a commodity to be wasted to get a ratio like that.