Why UPS drivers don't make left turns

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by oldngray, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    UPS announced earlier this fall that in order to meet growing holiday demand the company would operate on all cylinders the Friday after Thanksgiving. In the past, only UPS air operations ran that day; this year, the company’s trucks will be on the road as well.

    One thing you won’t see those trucks doing while they’re out delivering packages? Make left turns.

    How does UPS know that right turns are better? The company built a proprietary GPS system called Orion.

    The thing is, when ORION calculates the most efficient route, it almost never routes a left turn.

    When Yahoo Finance asked UPS’s Chief Commercial Officer, Alan Gershenhorn, about it he gave two additional reasons for ORION. The first is safety, the second is stoplights

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  2. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    Orion in action.
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  5. 9.5er

    9.5er Well-Known Member

    We must be on a different Orion program. I frequently have to make left hand turns. Then cross traffic to deliver a residential package. Or even worse pass by houses on my right side only to go the farthest house on the street and come back to deliver to them across the street. How is that for safety.
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  6. Tired Driver

    Tired Driver Sisyphus had it easy.

    I make left turns all day long. That is the way my loop is set up.
  7. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Some loops are set up counter clockwise with mostly left turns. Despite UPS claiming otherwise. And not even mentioning ORION.
  8. ChickenLegs

    ChickenLegs Safety Expert

    I'm thinking yahoo owns a chunk of UPS stock
  9. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

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  10. joeboodog

    joeboodog good people drink good beer

    I got a little bit of vomit in the back of my throat reading that malarkey.
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  11. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    That's friggin hilarious. I don't know they get away with lying to the press so badly. Orion does nothing BUT unnecessary left turns. So sad.
  12. Packmule

    Packmule Well-Known Member

    I don't know anything about Orion except what I see on BC. When I took over my route 8 years ago, I personally began re looping it and mgt just makes the changes. I am the one who tries to avoid left turns, and no, it is not 100 percent.
    The question on this post is "why?"
    My question is, have you ever driven a motor vehicle in heavy traffic before?
  13. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member


    I make left turns all day
  14. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    I just read this article and honestly I'm dumbfounded. I'm on Orion and almost one third of my directives are left hand turns. Funny thing is most of them are stops that could be made with right hand turns later as I drive right back by them. I've had my route re-orioned five times with four rides by four different members of the various "Orion Teams". Anyhow my latest version is saying I should be able to do my route ten miles shorter but taking two hours longer. I know it makes no logical sense to me either but remember we are no longer here for our input but her for our output.
  15. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    I was told by my Orion trainer that they deduced no increase in accidents, with left turns. I had mine set up to go right, to the end, turn left once and come back. Thats out the door, I go let all day long, same with backing.Although I dont do it nearly as much as Orion suggests. . Only when safe.
  16. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Why is making a left turn unsafe? We do it all the time. What a bunch of tools!
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  17. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    The answer I always got from my ORION guy when he rode with me when I asked about the crazy increase in left hand turns: "it's the shortest way"

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  18. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 mouth breathers...everywhere

    :rofl: malarkey..
  19. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Now you sound like Joe Biden. A Joe from a different mother? Or just Irish?
  20. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    If you're intrested in making ORIAN match your DOL, ask your ride along about "cell routing". Basicly making the ORIAN system ignore its own algorithm for a certain neighborhood. Multiple that times your whole route, you begin to easily make thier compliance numbers by doing your normal delivery process.