30 million for crack pipe distribution

vantexan

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The problem with how we fought the war before was working hand and hand with the cartels to defeat the cartels. You can’t work with the Mexican government to achieve this. Look at how their election work lol. Very violent stuff.

The drug cartels hurt legitimate businesses in Mexico. They keep the country from being able to create a real government, wasting endless lives and money fighting amongst themselves.
It’s hard to want to invest in a country like that when you will guaranteed end up extorted by the cartels and they suck every dollar out of your family. An iron fisted military dictatorship like the one under Pinochet is the only way I see achieving a truly independent economy in Mexico and freeing the people from the cartels.
A lot of Mexicans feel this way, their situation is :censored2:ing hopeless without a drastic change. Many wish for a very strong leader and almost 50% of the country wouldn’t mind going under military rule again.

That’s how bad :censored2: is there.
You do know that Mexico is the world's 15th largest economy and American business is all over it? What happens with the cartels is a very small part of it. Actually the cartels affect the U.S. much more than they affect Mexico.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
You do know that Mexico is the world's 15th largest economy and American business is all over it? What happens with the cartels is a very small part of it. Actually the cartels affect the U.S. much more than they affect Mexico.
Actually they don’t. The cartel isn’t running elections and murdering our politicians. Also Mexico’s gdp is only 1 trillion, cartels are estimated to bring in a quarter of that on the low side and just in the drug trade and just in America. They do much more than drug smuggling to bring in income and they smuggle drugs to more than the US.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
“The cartels are active down there. Generally we have a good relationship with them,” McEwen said on the Business News Network. “If you want to go explore somewhere, you ask them, and they tell you, ‘no,’ but then they say ‘come back in a couple of weeks, we’ve finished what we are doing.’ … They might be harvesting [drugs].”


If you’re doing business in Mexico, it doesn’t matter what company you are, it doesn’t matter what country your company is from(well maybe a little Americans probably get it easier) you’re going to have to do business with the cartels.
 

vantexan

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Actually they don’t. The cartel isn’t running elections and murdering our politicians. Also Mexico’s gdp is only 1 trillion, cartels are estimated to bring in a quarter of that on the low side and just in the drug trade and just in America. They do much more than drug smuggling to bring in income and they smuggle drugs to more than the US.
But that's pretty much separate from the Mexican economy. I've spent a month or more in 5 Mexican cities and life isn't all about the cartels. When I say the U.S. is much more affected by the cartels I mean that the U.S. is their primary market by far. Yes there is serious corruption in Mexico. But unless you're involved in the drug trade it's highly unlikely it'll ever affect you down there.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
But that's pretty much separate from the Mexican economy. I've spent a month or more in 5 Mexican cities and life isn't all about the cartels. When I say the U.S. is much more affected by the cartels I mean that the U.S. is their primary market by far. Yes there is serious corruption in Mexico. But unless you're involved in the drug trade it's highly unlikely it'll ever affect you down there.
Sorry the cartel didn’t come up and introduce themselves to you or show you them extorting all the local businesses or commit a killing infront of you.

They run those cities and local governments.
 

El Correcto

god is dead
But that's pretty much separate from the Mexican economy. I've spent a month or more in 5 Mexican cities and life isn't all about the cartels. When I say the U.S. is much more affected by the cartels I mean that the U.S. is their primary market by far. Yes there is serious corruption in Mexico. But unless you're involved in the drug trade it's highly unlikely it'll ever affect you down there.
It doesn’t matter if the black market is recorded gdp or not. That is still billions of dollars flooding into your country, into your local economies, feeding the rural folk working for them, etc.
 

Mutineer

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Not really. Some drugs can be legalized with little increase in crime or drug deaths probably less than alcohol even.
It's drug deaths that are needed. Part of the problem is that druggies don't die soon enough.
And then the bed-wetting liberals helped ruin that by advocating for and supplying Narcan!

All I’m saying is these millions in crack pipe distribution would be better spent bombing Mexico.
To escape the bombings would only make another excuse for Mexicans to come here!

I must admit that lately your rabid anti-Mexican sentiment matches and sometimes exceeds mine. In the past, I've articulated my reasons very clearly.

Did a Mexican recently steal yer husband?
 

El Correcto

god is dead
It's drug deaths that are needed. Part of the problem is that druggies don't die soon enough.
And then the bed-wetting liberals helped ruin that by advocating for and supplying Narcan!


To escape the bombings would only make another excuse for Mexicans to come here!

I must admit that lately your rabid anti-Mexican sentiment matches and sometimes exceeds mine. In the past, I've articulated my reasons very clearly.

Did a Mexican recently steal yer husband?
And fighting narco terrorists in Mexico is a good reason to secure the border, mark the people coming in as national security threats.

I don’t think there is enough political will to do it, but when trump brought up declaring them terrorists after that Mormon slayings I thought it would of been a good start.
 

Mutineer

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And fighting narco terrorists in Mexico is a good reason to secure the border, mark the people coming in as national security threats.
One would think anything that excites the military industrial complex (building more war machines) would be a shoe-in.

I'm guessing that a war against "narco-terrorists" isn't profitable enough.
 

vantexan

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Sorry the cartel didn’t come up and introduce themselves to you or show you them extorting all the local businesses or commit a killing infront of you.

They run those cities and local governments.
No, they don't. They run some cities and local governments. They flat out own a lot of business in some cities like Culiacan. But they aren't all over Mexico nor do they shake down major corporations like Walmart or Ford. They're too busy getting their drugs into the U.S. and pulling out money and fighting each other to be wasting time on penny anti BS.
 

vantexan

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It doesn’t matter if the black market is recorded gdp or not. That is still billions of dollars flooding into your country, into your local economies, feeding the rural folk working for them, etc.
Again you're talking about areas way up north where they fight for control of smuggling areas. It isn't the whole country.
 

PT Stewie

"Big Fella"
They interviewed a street person on Tucker last evening from San Francisco who earns $650.00 a month from the local government ,receives free drug paraphernalia, and subsidizes his income by selling fentanyl to teenagers .
 
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