Ahhh,,,, Christmas finally over

[Jack4343]

Since Christmas is over why haven't folks taking down their lights? I asked my neighbor why his were still up and said that the wife loved Christmas. Let me translate that for you, he meant he's too lazy to grab the ladder and take them down.

FYI, Christmas isn't over for many, including Catholics of which I am one. The Christmas season begins on December 25th and lasts until January 13th, the celebration of The Baptism of Jesus. In fact, tonight is the 12th of the 12 days of Christmas. We leave up all our decorations including the lights outside until after January 13th. Of course, we don't put any decorations up until December 24th except for the outside lights which I put up the week before. Also, I think UPS is still celebrating Christmas as well judging by all the full trucks all over the country! LOL

 

[toonertoo]

Here in So Cal, we too are working late, early December stops counts.

Since Christmas is over why haven't folks taking down their lights? I asked my neighbor why his were still up and said that the wife loved Christmas. Let me translate that for you, he meant he's too lazy to grab the ladder and take them down.

Im leaving mine up, not coz I am lazy, because I thought I might get to enjoy them NOW. Not, summer peak is here, you know the one that exists the rest of the year, but is not recognized. I think its called logistics.

 

[AssistantSanta]

Hire more drivers.

Sorry buddy but I don't want a helper year around. Not every bodies days are long. If we used helpers all year they would cut even more routes and there would never be drivers becoming full-time.

I didn't say everything you do is what you WANT. Since when do you get what we WANT every time?
I think helpers should be used whenever needed based on business needs. It creates more jobs for more people. Less cost of operations. Not a happy deal for union guys with vested interest however.

I'm not suggesting that every route should automatically get sent out with a full-day helper. Only those that will gain efficiency from having one.

If what you're sent out with takes 11 hrs and exact same can be kept under 9.5 with a helper, its win-win. You get the shorter hour you wanted. UPS saved money. Helper got his hours.

Without the helper you'd be doing 11 hours yourself, so it isn't really affecting other drivers in this instance.

If helpers allow same task to be completed without adding trucks, it is a production boost.

 

[TheKid]

Without the helper you'd be doing 11 hours yourself, so it isn't really affecting other drivers in this instance.
. . . or they could put on more full-time union drivers.

 

[AssistantSanta]

Without the helper you'd be doing 11 hours yourself, so it isn't really affecting other drivers in this instance.
. . . or they could put on more full-time union drivers.

That adds more trucks on the road, which is costly.
Drivers say hours are too long and even if company offers helper to lower that impact, then drivers say,
no the solution can't be that, the problem is this and we want the solution and we want it done THIS WAY....

They're not really looking to work it out. They're wanting their way every way

 

[Johney]

I didn't say everything you do is what you WANT. Since when do you get what we WANT every time?
I think helpers should be used whenever needed based on business needs. It creates more jobs for more people. Less cost of operations. Not a happy deal for union guys with vested interest however.

I'm not suggesting that every route should automatically get sent out with a full-day helper. Only those that will gain efficiency from having one.

If what you're sent out with takes 11 hrs and exact same can be kept under 9.5 with a helper, its win-win. You get the shorter hour you wanted. UPS saved money. Helper got his hours.

Without the helper you'd be doing 11 hours yourself, so it isn't really affecting other drivers in this instance.

If helpers allow same task to be completed without adding trucks, it is a production boost.

Ok so you say helpers should be used when needed right? So you'd be happy only working say a couple hours a day for may be two days a week? Not the same driver, not the same area,different times, sit by the phone waiting to see if you work today or not? Because that's exactly how it would be. But you'd be ok with that right? If I'm sent out with 11 hours that's 3 hours of overtime,with you on the car with me I get 1.5 or less of overtime. Now tell me again why I need a helper outside of peak?

Edit: Also I have to worry whether you'll show or not,worry about your safety stand in the back of the truck constantly sorting in the middle of summer. Forget it you'll never convince me. I could be wrong but I think UPS asked for year around helpers in this contract or the last and it was shot down.

 

[cosmo1]

^^^Pretty much this.

AsSanta, either crawl back into mommy's basement or try to get a real job with UPS. Believe me, they would love to keep you guys on for minimum wage if they could. However, the union​ prevents that.

 

[TheKid]

Assistant, That is the whole idea of a union. If there is work to be done, we do it at our rate. We do not want the to hire non-union people to do it at a lower rate.

 

[NYdriver]

I have a very good feeling that if I had a helper like ASSanta on my truck it would slow me down....

 

[menotyou]

I didn't say everything you do is what you WANT. Since when do you get what we WANT every time?
I think helpers should be used whenever needed based on business needs. It creates more jobs for more people. Less cost of operations. Not a happy deal for union guys with vested interest however.

I'm not suggesting that every route should automatically get sent out with a full-day helper. Only those that will gain efficiency from having one.

If what you're sent out with takes 11 hrs and exact same can be kept under 9.5 with a helper, its win-win. You get the shorter hour you wanted. UPS saved money. Helper got his hours.

Without the helper you'd be doing 11 hours yourself, so it isn't really affecting other drivers in this instance.

If helpers allow same task to be completed without adding trucks, it is a production boost.

So, more low wage jobs/no benefit jobs are what you want for the employees? I am sure a contract could be drawn up just for ASSt and the company that guarantees that ASSt never holds any other position than that with lowest wage and no benefits. We wouldn't want ASSt to be costly to the company.

 

[NYdriver]

I'm suprised ASSt even applieded for the helper job knowing he had to be around us no good union guys and gals all day

 

[menotyou]

I'm suprised ASSt even applieded for the helper job knowing he had to be around us no good union guys and gals all day

I am sure he researched it. I mean doesn't he run the research facility?
Isn't he the top dog? Head cheese?

 

[NYdriver]

You know what...I WISH WISH WISH we could bring ASSt to NY and get him hired as a FT driver NON-UNION. Management would be in their GLORY! We would see how quickly he changes his tune about his righ to work BS.

 

[menotyou]

You know what...I WISH WISH WISH we could bring ASSt to NY and get him hired as a FT driver NON-UNION. Management would be in their GLORY! We would see how quickly he changes his tune about his righ to work BS.

No benefits, either, as that is costly to the company, don'tcha know!!

 

[NYdriver]

No benefits, either, as that is costly to the company, don'tcha know!!

He would make friends real fast.

 

[screamin chicken]

No helpers after the 1st here,pretty much anywhere for that matter.

Then someone needs to come here................... still using helpers and they are even in street clothes, but then again we used hepers last summer also. Here is the problem 2 retired drivers 3 drivers fired, three out of service for for injuries that will never come back............