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Tom MacDonald

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The biggest Trumper at the center I work at has never been married, has no kids, admits he has never read a book in his life and doesn’t have a credit card because he doesn’t want the government tracking him.

He has no television and receives no printed news. He gets all of his news off of crazy conspiracy websites.

The BASE
Everyone is an individual, dont attempt to discriminate a group of people
 

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tonyexpress

Whac-A-Troll Patrol
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The biggest Trumper at the center I work at has never been married, has no kids, admits he has never read a book in his life and doesn’t have a credit card because he doesn’t want the government tracking him.

He has no television and receives no printed news. He gets all of his news off of crazy conspiracy websites.

The BASE
Sounds like a Bernie Bro.lol

Silly ascribing a whole group of people by one or a few.

Your post unfortunately shows your affliction with TDS. Smh
 

Re-Raise

Well-Known Member
Sounds like a Bernie Bro.lol

Silly ascribing a whole group of people by one or a few.

Your post unfortunately shows your affliction with TDS. Smh
I don’t believe that all Trump supporters are the same. Some of my best friends are Trump supporters and some are Democrats.

I live in a rural area where a lot of farmers like having fewer regulations that make their operations easier. I completely get that.

There are also friends of mine that feel strongly about abortion for religious reasons or because they have added to their families through adoption. Makes perfect sense.

What I don’t get is the obsession by working poor white men with Trump himself..not for any policy reasons but because he makes it okay to be a bully dbag!

They think that it makes lying and boorish behavior the norm. They weren’t political at all before.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Rona has a 99.9 percent survival rate and is the fault of the CCP. Democrat governors are the murderers. look up the Cuomo and whitmer nursing home stories
CCP is not innocent but not only to blame.

i think by now we can conclude alot of asian countries and australia NZ have done amazing containing hte virus.
 

tonyexpress

Whac-A-Troll Patrol
Staff member
I don’t believe that all Trump supporters are the same. Some of my best friends are Trump supporters and some are Democrats.

I live in a rural area where a lot of farmers like having fewer regulations that make their operations easier. I completely get that.

There are also friends of mine that feel strongly about abortion for religious reasons or because they have added to their families through adoption. Makes perfect sense.

What I don’t get is the obsession by working poor white men with Trump himself..not for any policy reasons but because he makes it okay to be a bully dbag!

They think that it makes lying and boorish behavior the norm. They weren’t political at all before.
I thought that this viewpoint from a 44-year-old democrat congresswoman was pretty interesting and shed some light on Trump and his base.

Elissa Slotkin Braces for a Democratic Civil War


She was intent on making her case that Trump, one of the most divisive and hated politicians in American history, had exposed a weakness in her party that could lead to its destruction.

“You know, the one thing I will say about Donald Trump,” Slotkin began. “He doesn’t talk down to anybody. He is who he is, but he doesn’t talk down to anyone. And I think that there is a certain voter out there because of that who identifies with him and appreciates him.” (This “certain voter,” she noted, is the MAGA enthusiast who appreciates that Trump does not condescend to them while ignoring how he belittles and demeans others.)

“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”

This was a central thesis of Slotkin’s argument. It has long been perceived that Democrats, in the post-9/11 era, are the party of inclusion and big-tent politics. But Slotkin has begun to question that notion. She fears that Democrats have created a barrier to entry, largely along cultural lines, that makes the party fundamentally unwelcoming to anyone with supposedly retrograde views of the world around them. This is not merely about race and racism. The schisms go far deeper, to matters of faith and conscience, economic freedom and individual liberty. Indeed, for the heavy losses Trump sustained among affluent college-educated whites, he nearly won a second term because of his gains with Black and brown voters. That these Americans were willing to support Trump, often in spite of his rhetoric, reveals an uncomfortable truth for the left. There are millions of voters—working-class whites and working-class minorities—whose stances on social controversies put them out of touch with the Democratic Party. It’s a truth they might be willing to overlook, if only the party could do the same.

“I remember, long before, literally, Donald Trump was even a twinkle in our eye, the way that people in my life here couldn’t stand political correctness. And I think [this is] the same kind of sentiment,” Slotkin explained. “Because the political correctness is thinking you’re better than somebody else—it’s correcting someone. Now, I happen to believe that we live in a different era, and that we have to be better than we were in previous eras. … But people do feel looked down upon.”
 

Re-Raise

Well-Known Member
I thought that this viewpoint from a 44-year-old democrat congresswoman was pretty interesting and shed some light on Trump and his base.

Elissa Slotkin Braces for a Democratic Civil War


She was intent on making her case that Trump, one of the most divisive and hated politicians in American history, had exposed a weakness in her party that could lead to its destruction.

“You know, the one thing I will say about Donald Trump,” Slotkin began. “He doesn’t talk down to anybody. He is who he is, but he doesn’t talk down to anyone. And I think that there is a certain voter out there because of that who identifies with him and appreciates him.” (This “certain voter,” she noted, is the MAGA enthusiast who appreciates that Trump does not condescend to them while ignoring how he belittles and demeans others.)

“It’s not just that he eats cheeseburgers at a big celebratory dinner. It’s not just that he does things that the common man can kind of appreciate. And it’s not even because he uses kind of simplistic language—he doesn’t use complicated, wonky language, the way a lot of Democrats do,” Slotkin said. “We sometimes make people feel like they aren’t conscientious enough. They aren’t thoughtful enough. They aren’t ‘woke’ enough. They aren’t smart enough or educated enough to just understand what’s good for them. … It’s talking down to people. It’s alienating them. And there’s just certain voters who feel so distant from the political process—it’s not their life, it’s not their world. They hate it. They don’t like all that politics stuff. Trump speaks to them, because he includes them.”

This was a central thesis of Slotkin’s argument. It has long been perceived that Democrats, in the post-9/11 era, are the party of inclusion and big-tent politics. But Slotkin has begun to question that notion. She fears that Democrats have created a barrier to entry, largely along cultural lines, that makes the party fundamentally unwelcoming to anyone with supposedly retrograde views of the world around them. This is not merely about race and racism. The schisms go far deeper, to matters of faith and conscience, economic freedom and individual liberty. Indeed, for the heavy losses Trump sustained among affluent college-educated whites, he nearly won a second term because of his gains with Black and brown voters. That these Americans were willing to support Trump, often in spite of his rhetoric, reveals an uncomfortable truth for the left. There are millions of voters—working-class whites and working-class minorities—whose stances on social controversies put them out of touch with the Democratic Party. It’s a truth they might be willing to overlook, if only the party could do the same.

“I remember, long before, literally, Donald Trump was even a twinkle in our eye, the way that people in my life here couldn’t stand political correctness. And I think [this is] the same kind of sentiment,” Slotkin explained. “Because the political correctness is thinking you’re better than somebody else—it’s correcting someone. Now, I happen to believe that we live in a different era, and that we have to be better than we were in previous eras. … But people do feel looked down upon.”
How do you explain when he claims to know more about every subject than the experts? How do you explain when he says he is the only one who can fix things?

I feel that politicians are temporary employees of the PEOPLE..I would never stand along a parade route anywhere in the world to cheer on a Supreme Leader!

I am not intimidated by anyone’s intelligence. There are people that know more about many subjects than I know.

Why would I expect them to dumb it down for me?

But I agree that many of his supporters seem to feel that way.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
She fears that Democrats have created a barrier to entry, largely along cultural lines, that makes the party fundamentally unwelcoming to anyone with supposedly retrograde views of the world around them. This is not merely about race and racism. The schisms go far deeper, to matters of faith and conscience, economic freedom and individual liberty. Indeed, for the heavy losses Trump sustained among affluent college-educated whites, he nearly won a second term because of his gains with Black and brown voters. That these Americans were willing to support Trump, often in spite of his rhetoric, reveals an uncomfortable truth for the left. There are millions of voters—working-class whites and working-class minorities—whose stances on social controversies put them out of touch with the Democratic Party.
Yep. It'll be interesting to see how things shake out in the Democratic Party over the next couple years. Bernie (or AOC if she were old enough to run) would have lost this year's Presidential election in a landslide. And that's what'll happen to the Democrats in 2022 and 2024 if the Party decides to get woke and go broke between now and then after losing a sizeable number of down ballot races for the House and state legislatures this year.
 
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