Are all sorters lazy?

[Big Package]

If the company culture was based on part time employee feedback, the difference would be night and day. We have people who would rather literally starve than put up with management in our hub. We are short nearly 20 people in the morning.

 

[BrownsNaive_Flunkie]

If the company culture was based on part time employee feedback, the difference would be night and day. We have people who would rather literally starve than put up with management in our hub. We are short nearly 20 people in the morning.

So basically what you're telling me is if I became pt sup and wanted to improve morale but wasn't pushing the sort manager or whoever agenda. Im setting myself up to get fired?

My train of thought on your main point. you're saying company culture should reflect employee feedback, then the employees(you and your co-workers) that know what changes need to be made should be trying to get into upper management to make the building a better environment. This isn't no fairy tale business but you make it seem like things will be the way they are forever. When I've heard that sup used to cuss hourlys out left and right with no reprucussions but it doesn't happen as often due to union presence.

 

[Hellobrown2000]

Feels cool when you're new. Because maybe you're coming from a job or place in life where hard work got you noticed. At UPS, it only gets you more work.

Don't smash your body over the months and years trying to be some sort of hero.

God that's true.

 

[Hellobrown2000]

sorting is harder than unloading, that's why

Negative. Maybe in a building that still has to memorize zips instead of color specific belts

 

[Brownslave688]

So basically what you're telling me is if I became pt sup and wanted to improve morale but wasn't pushing the sort manager or whoever agenda. Im setting myself up to get fired?

My train of thought on your main point. you're saying company culture should reflect employee feedback, then the employees(you and your co-workers) that know what changes need to be made should be trying to get into upper management to make the building a better environment. This isn't no fairy tale business but you make it seem like things will be the way they are forever. When I've heard that sup used to cuss hourlys out left and right with no reprucussions but it doesn't happen as often due to union presence.

Geeeezus you haven't shut up yet

 

[BrownsNaive_Flunkie]

Geeeezus you haven't shut up yet

 

[RuthlessSupSlayer]

Compassion is a life skill. I don't hate my coworkers, I don't appreciate sorters that like creating jams or tell me to slow down while all belts are clear.; stuff like that sparked my original post. I don't want to be in a main belt sorters shoes, I'm not less of a man for that. Unloaders that move to sort in my building don't get to come back, every vet has told me if I crossover they will not allow me to come back to unload. I've been all around the my HUB in this short time trying to understand how UPS operates. Worked in Irreg, small sort, QC, loading, assisted in the Pit. I want to be in as many shoes as possible so I can learn how to make the business better. For some people it takes 3 years to graduate college, for others it may take 8 years. Time is not indicative of knowledge, 1st fallacy in your argument. I do respect others but I have little respect for others that cause my sups to become an annoyance. In fact, my sup was a sorter and he tells me to send packages even when the sorter isn't there and let them pick it up. So I'm learning from your kind. Maybe UPS should train sups on soft skills.

1st off stop putting words in my mouth to validate your argument again i never said the word Hate. Secondly time does matter because its a ls much of a physical battle as a mental battle. And the only way to gain a true understanding is putting time. Why not try to help them since you are such hero?

 

[LeaveIt2Griever]

Negative. Maybe in a building that still has to memorize zips instead of color specific belts

That's how we do it here, we have to memorize ZIP codes. Nobody wants to be a sorter in this building, all incentive to do so was removed when they bumped the minimum wage up to $13. Why take the most difficult job in the building if you'll be making the same amount of money regardless?

Also for the record, after small sort, unloading is the easiest job in the building.

 

[RuthlessSupSlayer]

I'm not trying to brag on about unload speed, I trying to give you all a reference you can relate too. otherwise I just say "i move packages fast." I wish I could have worked as many hours as you. I want to be a PT sup to learn another aspect of the business and gain additional responsibilities, if any.

And it's the people I work with from day 1 and you all on the forum that make me want to be in management even more. Because this company's culture is based on Hourly workers feedback. Reading other threads and daily interactions, UPS management is either young and inept or old and surly. Sure, I don't know compared to 99% of BC but it's not going stop me from taking an unpopular role. No one's experience in life or UPS are the same, so miss me with any management position is a death wish stuff.

You love making assumptions about people's lives @RuthlessSupSlayer

Not as much as you do since you put words in people's mouths. Also i base my OPINION from what you say and the way i interpret it based off my expirence. Oh and just a quick jab in my 30s and working 2 jobs getting 3 to 4 hours odlf sleep i would work circles around you kid.

 

[Tom MacDonald]

Not as much as you do since you put words in people's mouths. Also i base my OPINION from what you say and the way i interpret it based off my expirence. Oh and just a quick jab in my 30s and working 2 jobs getting 3 to 4 hours odlf sleep i would work circles around you kid.

All due respect...

The last thing I'd be doing with that much sleep is getting in an in depth argue with an imbecile on this site

 

[RuthlessSupSlayer]

All due respect...

The last thing I'd be doing with that much sleep is getting in an in depth argue with an imbecile on this site

Thanks @Dodge i only have 9 months down with that little sleep but I'm still on point despite its the end of the week. I'm used to it now.

 

[RuthlessSupSlayer]

Thanks @Dodge i only have 9 months down with that little sleep but I'm still on point despite its the end of the week. I'm used to it now.

I am also getting all my paperwork preped for integrad to be go to school so i can get promoted to a driver and quit my sup job at my other company.

 

[Wally]

If the company culture was based on part time employee feedback, the difference would be night and day. We have people who would rather literally starve than put up with management in our hub. We are short nearly 20 people in the morning.

Pay $24 a hour and watch how full staffed you are.

 

[4evapreloader]

Do you know what the "solution" is in our building? Speed up the belts. Soups claim it's the optimal speed for working. Packages are more spaced out.

Those of us with a brain know they are speeding up the belts because they are shoving more packages down our throats. They think they can avoid damages at the end of the chutes by speeding things up. Meanwhile they can't figure out why new people are quitting.

The luddites in management want us to use crayons which were deemed redundant back in 2005. Jam bulk into the package cars a half hour before the shift ends so we can send a few people home. Then complain about load quality. Idiots.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Do you know what the "solution" is in our building? Speed up the belts. Soups claim it's the optimal speed for working. Packages are more spaced out.

Those of us with a brain know they are speeding up the belts because they are shoving more packages down our throats. They think they can avoid damages at the end of the chutes by speeding things up. Meanwhile they can't figure out why new people are quitting.

The luddites in management want us to use crayons which were deemed redundant back in 2005. Jam bulk into the package cars a half hour before the shift ends so we can send a few people home. Then complain about load quality. Idiots.

Speeding up the belts will make the loaders job easier and reduce damages? Reminds me of Lucy and Ethel working in the chocolate factory. Someone please provide a link to the "I Love Lucy" episode.

 

[burrheadd]

I am also getting all my paperwork preped for integrad to be go to school so i can get promoted to a driver and quit my sup job at my other company.

Don't really know if I'd call driver a promotion

 

[UnconTROLLed]

sorting is harder than unloading, that's why

I'm guessing you have not seen buildings with the new extendos, built for 60'. I'm around 5'9 and the belt begins at chest high, and by the end of a trailer is roughly waist high. No lower. I have been around long enough to know that, unloading was once slightly easier (on average), but now unloading is generally harder and causes more injury. However, that is only my experience from doing both jobs inside of an "updated" hub with those extendos, and not the smaller buildings I have worked, where the same equipment reaches the floor.

 

[Matty_lawn]

Higher management doesn't want pt sups to come in and make a positive impact. They want "yes" men

 

[RuthlessSupSlayer]

Don't really know if I'd call driver a promotion

going from a supervisor to a driver???? Yes

 

[watdaflock?]

As an unloader I smash trailers on the daily,I started off mediocre around 950-1100 my 1st two weeks. Now, hovering around 1400-1600 ph with a quality sorter. For the last 3 weeks no one wants to sort me, is this the norm at every hub? (Can't wait til we're automated!)

You're terrible. Everyone at our hub averages 2000 ph or more.

sorting is harder than unloading, that's why

* Only if the dummy sorters are sending packages down the right belt. If I had a dollar for every time sort sends us the wrong package, it'd pay for my weekly heroin addiction.