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The Other Side

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How can that be the stupidest thing said about immigration WHEN IT'S TRUE.

People from all over the world lie, cheat, steal and risk their life and their family's lives to try and get here.

Millions.

I say deport them all.


Do you idiots know what a MILLION people crossing the border would actually look like?

Why do you midwest people continue to believe immigrants are crossing the desert vs the reality of VISA overstays?

How stupid are you people?

TOS.
 

The Other Side

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Liar.

Reagan never RAISED taxes.

.

You are an idiot.


Reagan’s tax increases

1982: The most significant tax increase Reagan signed was also the first. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (yes, another law with a very sexy name) increased taxes by almost 1 percent of GDP.

The 1982 tax increase was "probably the largest peacetime tax increase in American history," said economist Bruce Bartlett, who advised Reagan on domestic policy and then worked as Treasury deputy assistant secretary for economic policy in the George H.W. Bush administration. (An analysis by Jerry Tempalski, an analyst in the Office of Tax Analysis with the U.S. Department of the Treasury, agrees.)

1983: A law Reagan signed in 1983 aimed to keep Social Security afloat by increasing payroll taxes and taxing Social Security benefits for some high-earners. This cost $24.6 billion, or almost $50 billion in 2015 dollars, through 1988, according to an administration estimate.


1984: The Deficit Reduction Act that Reagan signed rolled back part of the 1981 cut on buildings, Entin said, with the idea that Congress would enact spending cuts. "But many of those cuts were either never enacted or were later restored," Entin said. This led to $25 billion in tax receipts.

Reagan also signed tax increases in 1985, 1986, 1987 and 1988 (as well as a couple other laws with revenue reductions).


""Reagan’s staff tallied up the effect of major legislation on tax receipts over his tenure for his final budget proposal (page 4-4). The 1981 tax cuts comprised most of the total $275 billion in tax relief, but the other side of the ledger listed $133 billion in cumulative tax increases.

"Thus, Reagan took back about half the 1981 tax cut with subsequent tax increases," Bartlett wrote.""

Stay out of these discussions RB1

TOS.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
You are an idiot.


Reagan’s tax increases

1982: The most significant tax increase Reagan signed was also the first. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (yes, another law with a very sexy name) increased taxes by almost 1 percent of GDP.

The 1982 tax increase was "probably the largest peacetime tax increase in American history," said economist Bruce Bartlett, who advised Reagan on domestic policy and then worked as Treasury deputy assistant secretary for economic policy in the George H.W. Bush administration. (An analysis by Jerry Tempalski, an analyst in the Office of Tax Analysis with the U.S. Department of the Treasury, agrees.)

1983: A law Reagan signed in 1983 aimed to keep Social Security afloat by increasing payroll taxes and taxing Social Security benefits for some high-earners. This cost $24.6 billion, or almost $50 billion in 2015 dollars, through 1988, according to an administration estimate.


1984: The Deficit Reduction Act that Reagan signed rolled back part of the 1981 cut on buildings, Entin said, with the idea that Congress would enact spending cuts. "But many of those cuts were either never enacted or were later restored," Entin said. This led to $25 billion in tax receipts.

Reagan also signed tax increases in 1985, 1986, 1987 and 1988 (as well as a couple other laws with revenue reductions).


""Reagan’s staff tallied up the effect of major legislation on tax receipts over his tenure for his final budget proposal (page 4-4). The 1981 tax cuts comprised most of the total $275 billion in tax relief, but the other side of the ledger listed $133 billion in cumulative tax increases.

"Thus, Reagan took back about half the 1981 tax cut with subsequent tax increases," Bartlett wrote.""

Stay out of these discussions RB1

TOS.
Cutting tax loopholes is not raising taxes.

Loopholes are crooked as hell.

The only thing that SHOULD MATTER is the tax rates.

And saving social security?

If he didn't do that, you would be screaming about social security collapsing is Reagan fault for not dealing with it in the 80's
 

The Other Side

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Cutting tax loopholes is not raising taxes.

Loopholes are crooked as hell.

The only thing that SHOULD MATTER is the tax rates.

And saving social security?

If he didn't do that, you would be screaming about social security collapsing is Reagan fault for not dealing with it in the 80's

The social security act that Reagan passed was used to DIVERT the money that was SUPPOSE to pay for social security by RAISING Taxes on the WORKERS of america to pay for his OVERSPENDING on the military.

The middle class got RIPPED OFF to pay for the RICH who recieved the largest TAX CUT in history at the time.

He DIDNT save Social Security.

Did you even read the link I provided you??


TOS.
 
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1989

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From your own article..

"Of course, it would be oversimplifying to suggest that tax rates and economic growth are the only determinants of tax revenue. Not every tax cut will increase revenue, nor will every tax increase. Most tax cuts partially pay for themselves with increased revenue from higher economic growth, but not all."

This article LEAVES out all the other metrics of TAX INCREASES over those same years and it tries to limit the argument to economic growth because of the tax cuts.

But like Reagan, He RAISED taxes all over the map to cover his shortfalls, and diverted social security money via tax increases to try to keep his head above water.

What YOU fail to understand is how money is diverted, and the people who would try to convince you that tax cuts are the answer to a growing economy trick you by leaving out the details.

If you want to read something REAL, read this.

Ronald Reagan and The Great Social Security Heist : FedSmith.com

TOS.
Funny you saying somebody's leaving out the details... You talk of all these wrongs republicans did. Yet they stay unchanged for 30+ years. Why haven't your beloved democrats changed these wrongs? If a bad reagan policy is still in place today, it is no longer a reagan policy. As of today it is an Obama policy.
 

MrFedEx

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You are an idiot.


Reagan’s tax increases

1982: The most significant tax increase Reagan signed was also the first. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 (yes, another law with a very sexy name) increased taxes by almost 1 percent of GDP.

The 1982 tax increase was "probably the largest peacetime tax increase in American history," said economist Bruce Bartlett, who advised Reagan on domestic policy and then worked as Treasury deputy assistant secretary for economic policy in the George H.W. Bush administration. (An analysis by Jerry Tempalski, an analyst in the Office of Tax Analysis with the U.S. Department of the Treasury, agrees.)

1983: A law Reagan signed in 1983 aimed to keep Social Security afloat by increasing payroll taxes and taxing Social Security benefits for some high-earners. This cost $24.6 billion, or almost $50 billion in 2015 dollars, through 1988, according to an administration estimate.


1984: The Deficit Reduction Act that Reagan signed rolled back part of the 1981 cut on buildings, Entin said, with the idea that Congress would enact spending cuts. "But many of those cuts were either never enacted or were later restored," Entin said. This led to $25 billion in tax receipts.

Reagan also signed tax increases in 1985, 1986, 1987 and 1988 (as well as a couple other laws with revenue reductions).


""Reagan’s staff tallied up the effect of major legislation on tax receipts over his tenure for his final budget proposal (page 4-4). The 1981 tax cuts comprised most of the total $275 billion in tax relief, but the other side of the ledger listed $133 billion in cumulative tax increases.

"Thus, Reagan took back about half the 1981 tax cut with subsequent tax increases," Bartlett wrote.""

Stay out of these discussions RB1

TOS.

You have just attacked their God, the worst President ever.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Do you idiots know what a MILLION people crossing the border would actually look like?

Why do you midwest people continue to believe immigrants are crossing the desert vs the reality of VISA overstays?

How stupid are you people?

TOS.

yea all that video of those illegals sneaking across the border were obviously via over stays. Bwahahahaha what a people you are..
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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There is yet to be any substance to the propaganda (not to mention misdirection) that refutes the information or claim in the study I presented. Its obvious that liberals should never be put in charge of finances. Or anything for that matter.


And TOS neither understands the concept of living within one's means, or the fact that there isn't enough taxable income in this country to fund his liberal utopia, so, is not even remotely qualified to participate in these discussions. But......that applies to most liberals and, unfortunately, they vote and get elected so, HENCE the current fiscal state of liberal states and our country as a whole.
 

The Other Side

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There is yet to be any substance to the propaganda (not to mention misdirection) that refutes the information or claim in the study I presented. Its obvious that liberals should never be put in charge of finances. Or anything for that matter.


And TOS neither understands the concept of living within one's means, or the fact that there isn't enough taxable income in this country to fund his liberal utopia, so, is not even remotely qualified to participate in these discussions. But......that applies to most liberals and, unfortunately, they vote and get elected so, HENCE the current fiscal state of liberal states and our country as a whole.

Your conclusions only further your own ignorance.

You would have no way to determine how I balance anything, and moreover, I find it difficult that you can balance comprehension by posting a report that neither supports your conclusions, or proves anything you said.

State after state, republican leadership has proven to be ginormous failures.

Your refusal to accept reality on this subject is really demonstrative on your inability to read.

TOS.
 

Overpaid Union Thug

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Your conclusions only further your own ignorance.

You would have no way to determine how I balance anything, and moreover, I find it difficult that you can balance comprehension by posting a report that neither supports your conclusions, or proves anything you said.

State after state, republican leadership has proven to be ginormous failures.

Your refusal to accept reality on this subject is really demonstrative on your inability to read.

TOS.

LOL! Dude! You were clearly whacked over the head pretty good when you picked the wrong guy as a victim of your "Knockout Game."
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
There is yet to be any substance to the propaganda (not to mention misdirection) that refutes the information or claim in the study I presented. Its obvious that liberals should never be put in charge of finances. Or anything for that matter.


And TOS neither understands the concept of living within one's means, or the fact that there isn't enough taxable income in this country to fund his liberal utopia, so, is not even remotely qualified to participate in these discussions. But......that applies to most liberals and, unfortunately, they vote and get elected so, HENCE the current fiscal state of liberal states and our country as a whole.

he would understand it better if it were information provided in his democratic talking points.
 
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