Biden or Trump

Biden or Trump


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vantexan

Well-Known Member
It was.
Check the :censored2:ing timeline this isn't complicated.

Yes because the scientists told him that it wouldn't.

Fauci is on video saying it wouldn't get bad. Why would he panic people for an outbreak the scientists said probably wouldn't happen.
You are missing the political implications. He got recorded telling the most famous reporter in America, a man who despises him, that he was told by the president of China at a time when China was telling the world it wasn't serious, no human to human transmission, that it was deadly serious and was spread through the air. He sat on that info, thought it would go away, it didn't, but he told a rally it was a Democrat hoax. He already knew it wasn't even before the Woodward interview so there were weeks that went by with him sitting on it. Woodward should have told somebody himself. What matters politically is the Democrats are going to play this up and make like every death is Trump's responsibility. Trump needs every vote and it's one thing when Dems claim this or that and it's B.S. Quite another when they've got him on tape. This is a lot more serious than grabbing them by their private parts on tape.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Sure as soon as trump discusses that policy at all himself. and in a coherent manner. Instead trump talks absolute gibberish most of the time, stuff about boat parades, and hating the media, and how its all unfair to him, blah, blah, blah, how he has done more for black Americans than any other president in US history, pure fictional nonsense. trump rarely discusses policy.
I'm sure the moderators will be asking questions on policy. You obviously haven't been watching Trump interviews. He still has his faculties, Biden is impaired.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Sure as soon as trump discusses that policy at all himself. and in a coherent manner. Instead trump talks absolute gibberish most of the time, stuff about boat parades, and hating the media, and how its all unfair to him, blah, blah, blah, how he has done more for black Americans than any other president in US history, pure fictional nonsense. trump rarely discusses policy.
By the way Trump said the other day that while the troops love him the Pentagon probably doesn't. They're in bed with defense contractors and want these wars to continue. If Biden wins expect to see us in another war.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
By the way Trump said the other day that while the troops love him the Pentagon probably doesn't. They're in bed with defense contractors and want these wars to continue. If Biden wins expect to see us in another war.
The rank and file military doesn't universally love trump. He is really wrong about that, there is polling to back this up. The idea that trump who was threatening to bomb various nations wouldn't take this nation to war and that Biden would is made up nonsense. LOL
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The rank and file military doesn't universally love trump. He is really wrong about that, there is polling to back this up. The idea that trump who was threatening to bomb various nations wouldn't take this nation to war and that Biden would is made up nonsense. LOL
He specifically told nations messing with us to back down. But he hasn't started a war and is drawing us down in Iraq and Afghanistan. And he's done more for the military and for veterans than pretty much any other president. The troops love him.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
He got recorded telling the most famous reporter in America, a man who despises him, that he was told by the president of China at a time when China was telling the world it wasn't serious, no human to human transmission, that it was deadly serious and was spread through the air. He sat on that info, thought it would go away, it didn't, but he told a rally it was a Democrat hoax. He already knew it wasn't even before the Woodward interview so there were weeks that went by with him sitting on it. Woodward should have told somebody himself. .
So much of that is just not true

You need to check your timeline.
You need to check the quotes.
You need to put those quotes in context.

What matters politically is the Democrats are going to play this up and make like every death is Trump's responsibility.
This is the only accurate part of your rant.
This is the newest Democrat hoax.
Not sure why you've fallen for it.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
So much of that is just not true

You need to check your timeline.
You need to check the quotes.
You need to put those quotes in context.


This is the only accurate part of your rant.
This is the newest Democrat hoax.
Not sure why you've fallen for it.
Sorry, saw Trump's explanation yesterday. Saw discussion of it yesterday on FOX. Saw Senator Kennedy of Louisiana tap dance around it yesterday, and he's normally very opinionated. I'm not going to lie about it to protect Trump. Hopefully voters have a short memory. And I think the debates will make many realize how bad off Biden is. And I heard what Trump said on the tapes. The timeline is out there, no mistake.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Sorry, saw Trump's explanation yesterday. Saw discussion of it yesterday on FOX. Saw Senator Kennedy of Louisiana tap dance around it yesterday, and he's normally very opinionated. I'm not going to lie about it to protect Trump. Hopefully voters have a short memory. And I think the debates will make many realize how bad off Biden is.
My suggestion to you is still to educate yourself. Start by turning off your tv.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
My suggestion to you is still to educate yourself. Start by turning off your tv.
Amigo, you aren't aware of what he said on tape or what's being said by analysts who get paid to discuss every angle. You said right at the start of this it's just more Democrat lies. I've heard both what he said on tape and his explanation for it. Sometimes you just have to accept that your guy isn't infallible. He may get most things right from a conservative view, but he's played with fire with the Twitter gaffes during his entire presidency. And why he would give an interview with Bob Woodward and tell him what is essentially a state secret is beyond me.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Amigo, you aren't aware of what he said on tape or what's being said by analysts who get paid to discuss every angle. You said right at the start of this it's just more Democrat lies. I've heard both what he said on tape and his explanation for it. Sometimes you just have to accept that your guy isn't infallible. He may get most things right from a conservative view, but he's played with fire with the Twitter gaffes during his entire presidency. And why he would give an interview with Bob Woodward and tell him what is essentially a state secret is beyond me.
I think your bad heart is depriving your brain of oxygen because you're being more obtuse than usual tonight.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
How is doing an interview with Trump, multiple interviews, all on tape, a hoax?
The Democrat conspiracy theory that President Trump was lying to the public is a hoax.

Not wanting the American people to panic about what may or may not happen, is not lying. In fact, it's part of President Trump's job. How do you not understand that?
 

oldngray

nowhere special
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refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
He specifically told nations messing with us to back down. But he hasn't started a war and is drawing us down in Iraq and Afghanistan. And he's done more for the military and for veterans than pretty much any other president. The troops love him.
He was threatening war with Iran, he was threatening war with North Korea. The idea that trump wouldn't take this nation to war but Biden will isn't backed up by any facts.

More republican fiction, trump hasn't done more for the military and vets than any other president and the troops do not universally love trump. There is polling to back this up. Please inform yourself.
 

The big package

Well-Known Member
One thing, I have noticed over the years at my place of employment, is how people who identify as republicans no longer discuss policy issues. I am surrounded by white men mostly without college degrees, who are mostly in their 30's to 60's and who make relative to other American workers, high incomes. I remember them debating the Iraq war and the war on terror, or talking about "gay marriage", or guns, or gold, or all manner of stuff I didn't agree with, but at least they were discussing actual policy issues.

Now they discuss how Kaepernick kneeling was disrespecting the flag when that was happening a few years ago, or how Hilary Clinton is a serial killer, how the media hates trump, how socialism is bad, covid is a hoax, an experiment in government control, how trump is fighting a secret war against Hollywood and democratic party pedophiles or voter fraud is a huge hidden problem.

It seems that all of the stuff they used to pretend to care about, are irrelevant, they don't discuss actual problems facing Americans, they want to discuss "culture war" fictional nonsense or strange conspiracies.

Whether trump wins or loses, what policies do his supporters actually want? I have no idea.
I have absolutely no problem having an adult debate with anybody because The Republicans are on the side of peace sensibility and common sense , but every time I have a discussion or a debate with somebody they can't handle it and they walk away . Just look at Biden , Harris, I have never in all my years seen a candidate running for president if that doesn't answer any tough questions . I still have no idea what the solutions to what he's spewing are probably cuz he doesn't have any solutions!!!
 

The big package

Well-Known Member
He was threatening war with Iran, he was threatening war with North Korea. The idea that trump wouldn't take this nation to war but Biden will isn't backed up by any facts.

More republican fiction, trump hasn't done more for the military and vets than any other president and the troops do not universally love trump. There is polling to back this up. Please inform yourself.
The fact of the matter is how he handled Iran and how he handled North Korea ( which is something that Obama would not touch)worked ! He fixed two major problems that the Obama administration was too scared to deal with and now some of the troops are coming home and the middle East is working problems out, countries are coming together ! Obama's answer was to throw piles of money at them . Obama's foreign policies were disgrace!!!
 

The big package

Well-Known Member
One thing, I have noticed over the years at my place of employment, is how people who identify as republicans no longer discuss policy issues. I am surrounded by white men mostly without college degrees, who are mostly in their 30's to 60's and who make relative to other American workers, high incomes. I remember them debating the Iraq war and the war on terror, or talking about "gay marriage", or guns, or gold, or all manner of stuff I didn't agree with, but at least they were discussing actual policy issues.

Now they discuss how Kaepernick kneeling was disrespecting the flag when that was happening a few years ago, or how Hilary Clinton is a serial killer, how the media hates trump, how socialism is bad, covid is a hoax, an experiment in government control, how trump is fighting a secret war against Hollywood and democratic party pedophiles or voter fraud is a huge hidden problem.

It seems that all of the stuff they used to pretend to care about, are irrelevant, they don't discuss actual problems facing Americans, they want to discuss "culture war" fictional nonsense or strange conspiracies.

Whether trump wins or loses, what policies do his supporters actually want? I have no idea.
And maybe they don't debate you because it's not worth it because you probably rant and rave and act like a child like most Democrats!!!
 
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