Biden or Trump

[refineryworker05]

And he threatened, not attacked, those countries. And look at recent developments with Israel. He's a lot more successful in bringing peace to the Middle East than Obama ever was.

Ok, but he threatened those nations, things could have gone to a military conflict, plus he increased troops in Afghanistan and Syria. There simply is no proof that trump wouldn't take this nation to war and Biden would. The Israel and UAE thing is a legit accomplishment and trump deserves credit for it. Hopefully it works out

 

[newfie]

The military gets a pay raise every single year. It will literally happen every year automatically. What are you talking about there? The Mission act, might be good for vets, I have no idea. No the rank and file military is not universally pro trump. The military times did a poll about whom soldiers would vote for, more supported Biden than trump.

oh now they're not universally pro trump . which means you're conceeding the majority favor trump. keep walking it back

 

[refineryworker05]

you guys have time to have in depth political discussions at work?

Yes.

 

[newfie]

Ok, but he threatened those nations, things could have gone to a military conflict, plus he increased troops in Afghanistan and Syria. There simply is no proof that trump wouldn't take this nation to war and Biden would. The Israel and UAE thing is a legit accomplishment and trump deserves credit for it. Hopefully it works out

decreased troops in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. In the process he created outrage from our war mongering politicians who claimed we should keep troops in Syria to defend the kurds from our NATO ally Turkey? Do you just make this crap up as you go?

 

[newfie]

Yes.

sounds like the boss is not doing his/her job

 

[refineryworker05]

how many republicans do you speak for?

Well, there is trump who is consumed by conspiracies, there are republican elected officials who believe that facebook and twitter are out to get them, there was the racist Obama wasn't born in America conspiracy pushed by trump, that a majority of republicans believed according to polls, there was pizzagate that resulted in a person getting gun and going to a pizza restaurant and killing people, there is Qanon another insane conspiracy that a huge percentage of conservatives say they believe, there are my coworkers, who called covid a hoax, who believe that Hillary Clinton is a serial killer, etc.

 

[floridays]

I watched most of them. He wasn't impressive. He's where he is right now because he won South Carolina. The Democrat vote in South Carolina is largely black, and the majority of blacks were never going to vote for a socialist like Sanders. But I have seen him stumble repeatedly in recent months. He often can't complete a sentence, let alone a coherent thought. But let's see if you're right in the debates. Won't have a teleprompter then and none of those Democrat candidates except maybe Tulsi Gabbard could go toe to toe with Trump.

She's cute, exactly how could Tulsi go against Trump, we're speaking of political policy, ideas. If you want toe to toe, lets just have a fist fight.
You aren't a political pundit, stake your ground and speak the truth.
I don't give a rats ass where you're sliding to, at your age if you haven't figured it out, you probably won't. Cast your vote.

 

[refineryworker05]

the rank and file military does love trump . the leadership hate him.

One of the telling factors during the ukraine hoax was when the story stated coming out that there may have been a delay of arms sales to the ukraine. one of the defense department workers testified that the defense department was bombarded with phone calls from the military industrial complex in panic that their sales and profits may have been delayed.

No, its just not true, that rank and file soldiers universally love trump. There is polling to back this up.

I have no idea why military intelligence officials whistleblowing the trump phone call with the Ukrainian president which was deemed credible by inspector general for US intelligence and the acting director of national intelligence is a "hoax" by the Democrats. Some of these people were hired by the trump administration.

 

[refineryworker05]

Ok, rely on that. No problem.

I am not relaying on anything. It is simply an objective fact that trump is not universally loved by rank and file soldiers.

 

[refineryworker05]

oh now they're not universally pro trump . which means you're conceeding the majority favor trump. keep walking it back

No, I am not conceding or walking back anything. I have repeatedly said trump is not universally loved by rank and file soldiers. I don't think the majority support him. The military is far to racially diverse for this. The group of "armed" government officials who love trump would probably be cops. Not the military.

 

[refineryworker05]

your on drugs. republicans have been talking about policy quite a bit. Biden and his loonies have only been talking about trump and nothing about policy. One the few rare instances where biden does talk about policy it appears to be a copy of trumps policy

No, they don't. trump doesn't, most of the republicans on tv don't either and most republican voters, don't give a damn about policy.

 

[refineryworker05]

decreased troops in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. In the process he created outrage from our war mongering politicians who claimed we should keep troops in Syria to defend the kurds from our NATO ally Turkey? Do you just make this crap up as you go?

Look, trump has not reduced troop levels. I have no idea why you are pretending. trump has gotten huge donations from defense contractors, he has filled his pentagon with officials to ties with defense contractors.

 

[floridays]

I am not relaying on anything. It is simply an objective fact that trump is not universally loved by rank and file soldiers.

Well then, rest your head on that.
I frankly don't care how you choose to delude yourself.

 

[refineryworker05]

sounds like the boss is not doing his/her job

Lol, believe me the job I have when we are not doing anything that means the company is making money. When we are busy that means the company is not making money. We are basically baby sitters, responding to emergencies.

 

[refineryworker05]

Well then, rest your head on that.
I frankly don't care how you choose to delude yourself.

There is nothing to delude, again the US military is very racially diverse..... this means a lot, of rank and file soldiers maybe the majority do not support trump.

 

[floridays]

There is nothing to delude, again the US military is very racially diverse..... this means a lot, of rank and file soldiers maybe the majority do not support trump.

I see, you don't know and can't support what the friend you just said.
Better to stay silent.

 

[Box Ox]

There is nothing to delude, again the US military is very racially diverse..... this means a lot, of rank and file soldiers maybe the majority do not support trump.

Trump’s Strength With Military Households Persists in Wake of Atlantic Report - Morning Consult

Military Households Still Back Trump Over Biden, Despite Bombshell Atlantic Report: Poll

 

[floridays]

Trump’s Strength With Military Households Persists in Wake of Atlantic Report - Morning Consult

Military Households Still Back Trump Over Biden, Despite Bombshell Atlantic Report: Poll

I hope our military can perceive an ambush.

 

[refineryworker05]

I see, you don't know and can't support what the friend you just said.
Better to stay silent.

Support how? I have seen the polling to back that up.

 

[refineryworker05]

Trump’s Strength With Military Households Persists in Wake of Atlantic Report - Morning Consult

Military Households Still Back Trump Over Biden, Despite Bombshell Atlantic Report: Poll

military affiliated? Military households? That's not what I am discussing. I am talking about currently serving rank and file soldiers.