China to Leapfrog US Projected 2028?

[SLW]

It will take a war to make America great again. Good luck all.

You might be right, that's the Thucydides trap theory, but it's also at least as likely to be the war that solidifies China as new world hegemon.

 

[SLW]

It will fall just like every other Communist government has.

Are you sure? China is a Communist country, but I think you ought to look more into Socialism with Chinese Characteristics and what Deng did and what Xi is doing. Also Singapore, which administers their economy in a near identical way, just without the Communist trappings. Their brand of authoritarian capitalism is obscenely successful and shows zero signs of stopping and the concern is that that's what's going to replace liberal capitalism, not Communism or Fascism or whatever 20th century thing everyone is still afraid of.

 

[SLW]

They won’t stop with being the top economic power. They’ll want/need to expand.

Unless you live in Taiwan or something, I wouldn't worry too much. It's not China's modus operandi.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Unless you live in Taiwan or something, I wouldn't worry too much. It's not China's modus operandi.

Sorry if it offends you but I do not include you in my list of China experts in regards to their modus operandi.

I did download the Kindle Edition of Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap? by Graham Allison.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've read Michael Pillsbury's The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower.

And The Great U.S.-China Tech War by Gordon Chang.

These two guys seem to understand China's intents towards becoming the world's preeminent Superpower.

 

[SLW]

Sorry if it offends you but I do not include you in my list of China experts in regards to their modus operandi.

I did download the Kindle Edition of Destined for War: Can America and China Escape Thucydides's Trap? by Graham Allison.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I've read Michael Pillsbury's The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower.

And The Great U.S.-China Tech War by Gordon Chang.

These two guys seem to understand China's intents towards becoming the world's preeminent Superpower.

Not offended. I'm not to be trusted. Probably have a better CV than most here on the issue, but it still ain't . Allison's book is definitely a must read even though it's flawed (what isn't?).

I'm also not being consistent in my posts. One says I'm concerned about China and/or their economic system, the next says I'm not, etc. Truth is I'm legitimately wavering back and forth.

 

[vantexan]

We had a good run, but China is back on top like they were before we overtook them in the late 1800s. It's not great, but I'm also not convinced that this is some kind of catastrophe. Especially considering that they have in fact already been the biggest economy for several years now when taking into account purchasing power parity.

When was that exactly? China may have dominated their corner of the world a long time ago, but they were never a world power.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Not offended. I'm not to be trusted. Probably have a better CV than most here on the issue, but it still ain't *. Allison's book is definitely a must read even though it's flawed (what isn't?).

I'm also not being consistent in my posts. One says I'm concerned about China and/or their economic system, the next says I'm not, etc. Truth is I'm legitimately wavering back and forth.

Pillsbury and Chang are good resources who's viewpoint is more in line with Trump's approach than the previous administrations who were asleep on the job at least going back to Clinton ...
... maybe even Bush Sr and Reagan.

Personally, I have been against China since 10th grade in High School due to the influence of my high school history teacher Mr. Tyson.
I considered him an intellectual and he knew his history. He hated Nixon and Kissinger!

 

[SLW]

When was that exactly? China may have dominated their corner of the world a long time ago, but they were never a world power.

Qing dynasty China was the largest economy in the world prior to the US taking the mantle.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Qing dynasty China was the largest economy in the world prior to the US taking the mantle.

I thought the British Empire was the largest economy in the world prior to the US taking the mantle.

However, if you just looked at the internal GDP economy, you are correct.

 

[SLW]

I thought the British Empire was the largest economy in the world prior to the US taking the mantle.

However, if you just looked at the internal GDP economy, you are correct.

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It doesn't look like the graph takes into account purchasing power parity, which is important. I think it's probably also at least partially fair to say that they were the biggest economy bc of the British Empire.

500 Years of GDP: A Tale of Two Countries | Newgeography.com

www.newgeography.com

 

[vantexan]

Qing dynasty China was the largest economy in the world prior to the US taking the mantle.

OK, due to sheer size of their population. And they were capitalists with large expat colonies in the Philippines, and what are now Indonesia, Singapore, and Malaysia. But did they project power elsewhere? In that regard they never came close to the British Empire.

 

[SLW]

OK, due to sheer size of their population. And they were capitalists with large expat colonies in the Philippines, and what are now Indonesia, Singapore, and Malaysia. But did they project power elsewhere? In that regard they never came close to the British Empire.

I agree. But the article was just about the largest economy, so that's all I was really talking about. China has never really projected power in the traditional global imperial manner and I don't much expect that they will.

 

[refineryworker05]

Kind of like big brown we need to look long term. We in-fight, lose focus, meanwhile we fall behind. Advice (Diversify your portfolio’s).

China to leapfrog U.S. as world's biggest economy by 2028: think tank

China has 4 times as many people as the USA, that’s why their economy will be the largest in the world.

 

[SLW]

China has 4 times as many people as the USA, that’s why their economy will be the largest in the world.

Definitely a part of it. Then again, the US population is growing slightly faster than China's and in any case if population were the main driver of GDP, Indonesia would be right on our tail, and fast-growing and heavily-populated India would be far ahead of us and neither of these things are true.

 

[vantexan]

I agree. But the article was just about the largest economy, so that's all I was really talking about. China has never really projected power in the traditional global imperial manner and I don't much expect that they will.

What they are doing is building infrastructure in developing nations in exchange for access to raw materials. A route we should've followed a long time ago instead of just giving aid that too often never reached average people.

 

[Babagounj]

COVID-19 pandemic turns 50 healthcare leaders into billionaires

The COVID-19 pandemic has helped 50 healthcare leaders earn the billionaire status and of those, 28 hail from China, where the virus first emerged in December 2019.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[quad decade guy]

What they are doing is building infrastructure in developing nations in exchange for access to raw materials. A route we should've followed a long time ago instead of just giving aid that too often never reached average people.

Agree.

You left out the part about installing and enforcing with their military. Building airfields etc.

 

[Operational needs]

COVID-19 pandemic turns 50 healthcare leaders into billionaires

The COVID-19 pandemic has helped 50 healthcare leaders earn the billionaire status and of those, 28 hail from China, where the virus first emerged in December 2019.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Maybe one of the new Chinese billionaires owns the company that makes these wipes that have been sitting on the counter in our bathroom at work, that no one will use. Lol

 

[SLW]

Maybe one of the new Chinese billionaires owns the company that makes these wipes that have been sitting on the counter in our bathroom at work, that no one will use. LolView attachment 322718

That's Korean I think, I'll take em

 

[Operational needs]

That's Korean I think, I'll take em

I’d send them to you. No way for me to know where they’re from since there were no English words.