Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Party"
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wkmac
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
Would that be National Socialist Party or International Socialist Party?
Would that be National Socialist Party or International Socialist Party?
Catatonic
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
Whichever one is most closely aligned to the Socialist parties in Western Europe ... it would have to be the International Socialist Party since they all seem to hate to be Americans.
Whichever one is most closely aligned to the Socialist parties in Western Europe ... it would have to be the International Socialist Party since they all seem to hate to be Americans.
Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
So glad the mods here are a cross section of America, and not all Wingnuts.
So glad the mods here are a cross section of America, and not all Wingnuts.
Catatonic
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
I do own a Goldwing ... does that make me a Wingnut?
I do own a Goldwing ... does that make me a Wingnut?
wkmac
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
From my POV, that would be the former (National) moreso than the latter (International) as that form of socialism has been seen as far friendlier to state connected capital interests which would further explain how the so-called 1% has enjoyed even greater gains under Obama than it did even under Bush. Not to mention similar situation in many western European countries.
Were it the latter form of socialism IMO, the state connected elite would have seen an erosion to their wealth which has not been the case. I'd argue that the wealth gain over the last 10 plus years to the so-called 1% has been thanks to wealth re-distribution from the bottom and middle up. By tax, monetary and business central planning models of the US gov't, the extracting (by taxation in all forms) of private property which is labor converted to property expressed in monetary units from the middle and even lower classes and then via public policy shifting those tax dollars (formerly private property) into the form of corp. welfare. This shifting of property to then be invested in offshore business ventures to support the global reserve currency in Federal Reseve dollars is the main reason capital resources among the middle and even lower classes has all but dried up. Thus also further monopolizes and cartelizes business and industry which is a hallmark expression of Mussolini's form of socialism or the nationalist model.
This again IMO strengthens the argument that modern American capitalism is built on State privilege and not off any real free market actions where the rewards are co-equal with all the risks and costs. The fact that over the last 3 plus years the volumes of recorded federal law has exploded beyond belief but in the meantime whose wallets got fatter in the process while the risks and debt burdens (costs) got shifted off onto the backs of the tax paying 99%?
Obviously the numbers and their % are purely figurative to reality but as a general rule they do have some bearing.
JMHO
BTW: West I'm sure would say the form of socialism is the latter (International) because IMO he's neck deep himself in the former. Maybe he's including himself in his count but then I'd say under that form of socialism, the number of Congressmen and women involved is far, far higher than just around 80!
From my POV, that would be the former (National) moreso than the latter (International) as that form of socialism has been seen as far friendlier to state connected capital interests which would further explain how the so-called 1% has enjoyed even greater gains under Obama than it did even under Bush. Not to mention similar situation in many western European countries.
Were it the latter form of socialism IMO, the state connected elite would have seen an erosion to their wealth which has not been the case. I'd argue that the wealth gain over the last 10 plus years to the so-called 1% has been thanks to wealth re-distribution from the bottom and middle up. By tax, monetary and business central planning models of the US gov't, the extracting (by taxation in all forms) of private property which is labor converted to property expressed in monetary units from the middle and even lower classes and then via public policy shifting those tax dollars (formerly private property) into the form of corp. welfare. This shifting of property to then be invested in offshore business ventures to support the global reserve currency in Federal Reseve dollars is the main reason capital resources among the middle and even lower classes has all but dried up. Thus also further monopolizes and cartelizes business and industry which is a hallmark expression of Mussolini's form of socialism or the nationalist model.
This again IMO strengthens the argument that modern American capitalism is built on State privilege and not off any real free market actions where the rewards are co-equal with all the risks and costs. The fact that over the last 3 plus years the volumes of recorded federal law has exploded beyond belief but in the meantime whose wallets got fatter in the process while the risks and debt burdens (costs) got shifted off onto the backs of the tax paying 99%?
Obviously the numbers and their % are purely figurative to reality but as a general rule they do have some bearing.
JMHO
BTW: West I'm sure would say the form of socialism is the latter (International) because IMO he's neck deep himself in the former. Maybe he's including himself in his count but then I'd say under that form of socialism, the number of Congressmen and women involved is far, far higher than just around 80!
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
How about VP.
How about VP.
Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
Yeah. Throw a crazy bone to the Tea Party.
Yeah. Throw a crazy bone to the Tea Party.
moreluck
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
You have the option to watch MASH reruns instead of any televised debates.
People who vote want to hear the different sides to better make a decision.
You have the option to watch MASH reruns instead of any televised debates.
brett636
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
I would have to agree with Congressman West's assertions. Whether he meant to say socialist or communist it really doesn't matter as both ideals are really peas from the same pod only with one slightly more totalitarian than the other. Both ideologies are responsible for the deaths of millions throughout human history and deserve no place within the borders of the U.S. despite the democrats desparate attempts to make it work here. Allen West has a bright future holding higher offices in this nation, and I for one can not wait for that day to come.
I would have to agree with Congressman West's assertions. Whether he meant to say socialist or communist it really doesn't matter as both ideals are really peas from the same pod only with one slightly more totalitarian than the other. Both ideologies are responsible for the deaths of millions throughout human history and deserve no place within the borders of the U.S. despite the democrats desparate attempts to make it work here. Allen West has a bright future holding higher offices in this nation, and I for one can not wait for that day to come.
UnconTROLLed
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
lol
lol
UnconTROLLed
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
It was amazing, now it's like watching Cheers reruns.
texan
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Re: Congressman Allen West:"78 to 81 Democrat Congressmen Members of the Communist Pa
hmmm That made me ponder. Made me think.
Good post.
hmmm That made me ponder. Made me think.
Good post.
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