Covid Vaccinations

dmac1

Well-Known Member
I said what I said because there’s near unanimity among reputable sources that vaccine side effects occur with 8 weeks of administration.

With billions of shots worldwide and hundreds of millions in the US we have a pretty good idea of the side effects, most of which aren’t serious. Anyone that had serious side effects would almost surely see them within 2 months.
6 billion doses of various vaccines now world wide, with 13,000 deaths questioned as possibly being due to one or more of the vaccines, with now knowledge of and easy treatment for almost every known possible bad reaction.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
Again, more misleading troll misinformation.. You Missed it again.

The last 3 paragraphs of the article you and your media misrepresented...

"Last week the state reported just shy of 75,906 new cases — half as many as the 150,000+ new cases that had been reported for three consecutive weeks in August.

The state’s new-case positivity rate dipped to 11.2% in Friday’s weekly data from the Florida Department of Health. It had been over 20% in early August.

Florida’s COVID hospitalizations are also on a sharp decline. There were 8,488 patients admitted with COVID-19 on Monday, according to the Florida Hospital Association."
Just because fewer people have died this week or recovered from or been hospitalized for severe cases is not really a good reason to remain unvaccinated. HERD immunity if unvaccinated means either getting the disease and surviving or getting it and dying. . And catching covid once is only limited protection from catching it again and then dying. Catching covid and living is about as effective against later dying of covid as the vaccines, which offer greater protection against dying the first time you catch covid. And natural immunity is short lived- with documented cases of being reinfected in less than 2 months. 7 out of 9000 people who had covid once and were reinfected within 6 months then died That is almost still ten times the death rate as among the few vaccinated people who get covid and then die. Less than 2 in 10,000 who are vaccinated have died from covid, while 7 in 9000 unvaccinated who have had covid twice and died, plus all the other who died the first time they had covid.
 

dmac1

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In the vaccinated who have died, pathology shows that the spike proteins from the vaccine have disrupted the mitochondria of the cells of all the major organs of their bodies.

I’ll let you research the function of the mitochondria.
In the 2 in 10,000 people who were vaccinated and died, of course the virus ravaged them. Clearly their own immune system plus the vaccines was not enough. Do you think the unvaccinated who die have pristine cells when autopsied??? And the unvaccinated are dying at 10 times the rate when they do get covid.
 

dmac1

Well-Known Member
We all know that. Everyone knows that. Nobody says that the vaccines create the variants.

Vaccines do, however, help variants to thrive.
Actually- one of the posts says EXACTLY that vaccines create variants. And vaccines that are even mildly effective against a variant decrease the spread, as people will recover and spread it less if the vaccine is even mildly effective. And if the variant is deadly, and the vaccine is even mildly effective, you are more likely to live through it. So there are both personal and societal benefits to even a partially effective vaccine. The more UNVACINATED people there are, who don't even have mild protection are going to be contagious longer, spread it more while they are contagious, and they are at least as likely to have the virus mutate as the vaccinated.
 

Ou812fu

Polishing toilet bowls since 1966.
So this is what you yahoo's say is good to put into your body???
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Why the need to react information????
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
But if you need to catch the disease to gain the added immunity, you still have a greater risk of dying just getting to the same point as if you were vaccinated, and ALL the science shows that even if you previously had ovid, you can still catch it again- in at least 9000 cases- within 6 months- and still die from it. 7 people died out of 9000 documented with covid for the second time within 6 months, That is approximately the same rate as the number of vaccinated people who get covid, who die. And that just about says it all. You want people to risk dying to become immune once, for a brief period, and still end up with about the same risk of dying again as if they had the vaccine. And because even the so called natural immunity wanes, people reading this crap may thing they have life long immunity and no chance of dying from a second case, if they survived the first case. And the argument that natural immunity is 6-7 times better (at first) than a vaccine is a reason for booster shots. Instead of possibly catching covid and dying to boost immunity, just get the vaccine. NO ONE has developed covid from getting the imunity the vaccine gives. Some people are just sooooo afraid of a tiny shot in the arm, and would rather have 100 times the risk of death vs getting vaccinated as compared to someone unvaccinated who has never had covid. Almost EVERYONE who has had a severe case of covid wants to be vaccinated once they recover, if they recover, and increase their odds against getting it again.
That's a lot of words to say you're afraid of getting the sniffles.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
Just because fewer people have died this week or recovered from or been hospitalized for severe cases is not really a good reason to remain unvaccinated. HERD immunity if unvaccinated means either getting the disease and surviving or getting it and dying. . And catching covid once is only limited protection from catching it again and then dying. Catching covid and living is about as effective against later dying of covid as the vaccines, which offer greater protection against dying the first time you catch covid. And natural immunity is short lived- with documented cases of being reinfected in less than 2 months. 7 out of 9000 people who had covid once and were reinfected within 6 months then died That is almost still ten times the death rate as among the few vaccinated people who get covid and then die. Less than 2 in 10,000 who are vaccinated have died from covid, while 7 in 9000 unvaccinated who have had covid twice and died, plus all the other who died the first time they had covid.
Natural immunity last longer.
Stop pushing misinformation.
 

It will be fine

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It's funny how the same people who used to claim healthcare is a human right are now wanting unvaccinated people to not receive medical attention for anything from a broken arm to a heart stent. Shows what a bunch of lying frauds they are.
You must be confused on the argument then. I’m against stupid wasting public resources. If stupid people don’t think they need to buy health insurance the government should make them to protect the common good. Same thing with the vaccine. Take a safe effective shot and stop wasting public resources on easily preventable illnesses.
 
You must be confused on the argument then. I’m against stupid wasting public resources. If stupid people don’t think they need to buy health insurance the government should make them to protect the common good. Same thing with the vaccine. Take a safe effective shot and stop wasting public resources on easily preventable illnesses.
But the vaccine has improved in anything yet.
We have more cases than we did a year ago with at least half the population of vaccinated
And that's scaring people It was on it edge of getting the vaccine and now they're like why bother?
 
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