Covid vaccine.

[zubenelgenubi]

Maybe the lab rats are the ones not getting the vax.....na na na na na ...na na na na.....this is the dimension of imagination

You can make that argument, since c-19 was made in a lab. I think we are all lab rats to some degree. We all generate data that is then used, mostly, to better inform the attempts to control our behavior. All that aside, there really is no good counter-argument to the lack of long term safety data. It makes me wonder why more affluent, "better educated" people are less likely to understand that simple fact. Maybe they should listen to grandpa more. Imagine how easy it was getting people to disregard basic safety considerations in the hopes of saving mostly people who were likely to die soon anyway. It's nonsensical.

As for the VAERS info, the only argument anyone can make is that correlation does not equal causation (curious that they know that now, but forgot that over the whole last year+), but I am not seeing the results of investigations showing these things are absolutely unrelated from those who make that argument. The precautionary principal tells us we are better to assume a direct link until it is investigated thoroughly.

Anyone who got the shot without a reasonable compensation for being part of an ongoing safety study clearly wasn't using their well-nourished, well-educated brain to make that decision.

 

[sailfish]

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I wish Trump would announce that breathing is good for you.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

You can make that argument, since c-19 was made in a lab. I think we are all lab rats to some degree. We all generate data that is then used, mostly, to better inform the attempts to control our behavior. All that aside, there really is no good counter-argument to the lack of long term safety data. It makes me wonder why more affluent, "better educated" people are less likely to understand that simple fact. Maybe they should listen to grandpa more. Imagine how easy it was getting people to disregard basic safety considerations in the hopes of saving mostly people who were likely to die soon anyway. It's nonsensical.

As for the VAERS info, the only argument anyone can make is that correlation does not equal causation (curious that they know that now, but forgot that over the whole last year+), but I am not seeing the results of investigations showing these things are absolutely unrelated from those who make that argument. The precautionary principal tells us we are better to assume a direct link until it is investigated thoroughly.

Anyone who got the shot without a reasonable compensation for being part of an ongoing safety study clearly wasn't using their well-nourished, well-educated brain to make that decision.

I get it if you don’t want to vax.
I get it, you believe the virus was created as a way to kill off the population, or an experiment of some sort, or something IDK what you actually believe other than NO WAY IM GETTING THAT !!! I know my rights!!!
I get it. You believe the government wants some of us to die. You believe that our financial contributions, and production is no longer of interest
I get it.
Fear, or trepidation, is quite normal. I don’t have any problem with fear, or trepidation
However, I keep reading you post this sentiment of “anybody who got the vaccine is stupid”
So I’m just wondering Z
Which of the following ingredients do you have an issue with and would like to discuss?

mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2
[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium
phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.

Where’s the bad stuff, specifically?

 

[trickpony1]

Where’s the bad stuff, specifically?

Where's the good stuff, specifically?

 

[Netsua 3:16]

Where's the good stuff, specifically?

Do you have basic chemistry knowledge?
I’m just trying to find the poisonous material in here

 

[Browntown2014]

Some newer information on that safe experimental vaccine so many have volunteered to be lab rats for.
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Lol is this the kind of hard hitting data I can rely on if I use DuckDuckGo?

 

[Netsua 3:16]

Lol is this the kind of hard hitting data I can rely on if I use DuckDuckGo?

That graphic is probably from a conservative Facebook page
Anti-vax people: feeding into hysteria about hysteria. Get to the back of your sheep line

 

[BrownFlush]

Many who choose to get the COVID-19 shot are sensationalized by the media and are way off when asked what is the infection fatality ratio. Some think you have a 10 or 20% chance to die if you catch it.

Any factual data on this?

Those who choose not to get the shot usually know that, in regards to children, the flu is significantly more deadly than COVID.
Those who choose to get the shot don't usually know about the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. Those who aren't getting the shot are likely to have spent time looking through the reports.
Etc, etc.

Any factual data on this?

I could be wrong about my choice not to get this shot.

yeah, you could be.

I'm not certain that the risks outweigh the benefits. I don't know everything, I'm just a truck driver. But I've made a valid, informed choice. I have the right to make that choice and there should not be punishment towards those who make the same choice..
Many of us have spent an enormous amount of time reading on the subject from every angle.

Agree.
The same could/should be said about pro-vaxxers.

That is also an acceptable choice. I have no issue with people coming to different conclusions than me.

You are on to something, brother.

 

[BrownFlush]

Meh, if the US government and global elite wanted to kill off everyone they could do it a lot faster. I got the shot. I still wear a mask at certain places. It’s out of courtesy to others. I drink a lot of beer and spend a lot of time enjoying life. When it’s my time to burn in hell I say bring it bitchesView attachment 344616

There ain't no covid in hell.

 

[Well-Known Member]

I get it if you don’t want to vax.
I get it, you believe the virus was created as a way to kill off the population, or an experiment of some sort, or something IDK what you actually believe other than NO WAY IM GETTING THAT *!!! I know my rights!!!
I get it. You believe the government wants some of us to die. You believe that our financial contributions, and production is no longer of interest
I get it.
Fear, or trepidation, is quite normal. I don’t have any problem with fear, or trepidation
However, I keep reading you post this sentiment of “anybody who got the vaccine is stupid”
So I’m just wondering Z
Which of the following ingredients do you have an issue with and would like to discuss?

mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2
[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium
phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.

Where’s the bad stuff, specifically?

They can't, and won't, tell you. Because there is nothing "bad." They have no idea how the mRNA works, and exactly what it does.

It does not change DNA. If some people get sick after the shot, it is not because of the ingredients. Yes, it is due to the shot, but it is due to the side effects of the body's own immune system "fighting" the spike protein that the body created.

And that mRNA rapidly fades away, so the body does not go on producing the spike protein. The body's immune system remembers it, and comes back into action if it sees it again.

I am against any vaccine mandates. Everyone needs to make their own choice. The issue is that some people loudly advocating against the vaccine have absolutely no idea about the science behind it. They read something and believe it to be true, without doing their own research.

"The vaccine cause GBS, oh my God. No way in hell am I getting it."
"The vaccine magnetizes you. No way am I getting it."
"The vaccine injects a microchip in you from Bill Gates. No way am I getting it."

And then they go online and continue to spread this.

Get vaccinated, or don't get vaccinated. I don't care. But I wish truck drivers would quit telling other people to do one or the other. It is not up to you. It is up to that person, and their own research, in consultation with their own Doctor.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

They can't, and won't, tell you. Because there is nothing "bad." They have no idea how the mRNA works, and exactly what it does.

It does not change DNA. If some people get sick after the shot, it is not because of the ingredients. Yes, it is due to the shot, but it is due to the side effects of the body's own immune system "fighting" the spike protein that the body created.

And that mRNA rapidly fades away, so the body does not go on producing the spike protein. The body's immune system remembers it, and comes back into action if it sees it again.

I am against any vaccine mandates. Everyone needs to make their own choice. The issue is that some people loudly advocating against the vaccine have absolutely no idea about the science behind it. They read something and believe it to be true, without doing their own research.

"The vaccine cause GBS, oh my God. No way in hell am I getting it."
"The vaccine magnetizes you. No way am I getting it."
"The vaccine injects a microchip in you from Bill Gates. No way am I getting it."

And then they go online and continue to spread this.

Get vaccinated, or don't get vaccinated. I don't care. But I wish truck drivers would quit telling other people to do one or the other. It is not up to you. It is up to that person, and their own research, in consultation with their own Doctor.

I stay out of it cause it’s 100% a personal choice thing. Absolutely zero problem with anybody who doesn’t want it. The quacking is just getting annoying

 

[hellfire]

Polio and Smallpox never achieved herd immunity. It was eradicated

 

[Darmark7]

Lol is this the kind of hard hitting data I can rely on if I use DuckDuckGo?

Yeah I would stick to CNN and Google that’s the real truth tellers.

 

[Darmark7]

I see many here that say they support everyone having a choice to say yes or no to the vaccine, but already we are seeing more and more places forcing this experimental drug on people or they are threatened with their job. Now we already have countries that are forcing people to get it. So already we are seeing people that don’t want it and they are not given a choice and this has just started. It will not get better. Usually it takes 4 to 5 years of studies to see what all the affects of a vaccine are. We have enough lab rats now that we can wait and see but I don’t think the people in the know want to wait because they know they have a short window of fear to get as many as possible vaccinated and then just like any good merchandiser it will not cure you will need more at least every year. Medicine to make money doesn’t cure you it makes you a customer for life.

 

[Dumbo]

But also none of you can explain WHY to take it. It's a fact it has a very very low mortality rate, in fact most somewhat healthy people don't know they even have it. In fact the average age of mortality is lower than than average age of COVID deaths.

It's a fact that several doctors and scientists come out strongly against it, including Dr. Malone the inventor of the actual mRNA vaccine. So again why take it?

Oh I should take it to protect others? My kids should get it to protect others? NO! I am not responsible for the health of others. That's their responsibility. If you have a weak immune system than YOU take the vaccine, you wear the mask, you social distance, you find ways to help yourself like taking vitamin D, zinc, etc.

Further, as a parent your first job is to protect your child. They are not responsible for protecting you. I am not sacrificing my child to a experiment without the actual FDA approval or long term studies so YOU can be protected. Their health is my first priority. Its 100% fact that they have almost 0 risk to this. This aspect is among the most disgusting. To those who say I should vaccinate my child for this. YOU.

I agree with free choice. But the campaign to pressure and harass people including in some cases losing their jobs is not acceptable. The censorship which is real and present and the silencing of doctors and scientists should speak volumes to anybody with a brain.

So although I am not a scientist, and hey maybe it's not going to kill everyone off in a few years, but maybe it will, and the way they go about it just does nothing but raise red flags and it should for anybody. There is NO NEED! That's the whole point. No need to take the shot. So why? Explain that please.

Nobody can do it. Nobody can explain why they should take it. Not to mention, you can still spread it even vaccinated! So what's the actual point?

 

[Netsua 3:16]

But also none of you can explain WHY to take it. It's a fact it has a very very low mortality rate, in fact most somewhat healthy people don't know they even have it.

It's a fact that several doctors and scientists come out strongly against it, including Dr. Malone the inventor of the actual mRNA vaccine. So again why take it?

Oh I should take it to protect others? My kids should get it to protect others? NO! I am not responsible for the health of others. That's their responsibility. If you have a weak immune system than YOU take the vaccine, you wear the mask, you social distance, you find ways to help yourself like taking vitamin D, zinc, etc.

Further, as a parent your first job is to protect your child. They are not responsible for protecting you. I am not sacrificing my child to a experiment with the actual FDA approval or long term studies so YOU can be protected. Their health is my first priority. Its 100% fact that they have almost 0 risk to this. This aspect is among the most disgusting. To those who say I should vaccinate my child for this. * YOU.

I agree with free choice. But the campaign to pressure and harass people including in some cases losing their jobs is not acceptable. The censorship which is real and present and the silencing of doctors and scientists should speak volumes to anybody with a brain.

So although I am not a scientist, and hey maybe it's not going to kill everyone off in a few years, but maybe it will, and the way they go about it just does nothing but raise red flags and it should for anybody. There is NO NEED! That's the whole point. No need to take the shot. So why? Explain that please.

Nobody can do it. Nobody can explain why they should take it.

So that we can get things moving again? Get small businesses back. Get lost jobs back. Encourage commerce again. We can’t have a society BASED on commerce full of people who don’t want to freaking commerce.
I’m not trying to be purposefully obtuse towards you or make light of your point whatsoever. It’s a valid point. If the disease has a 99 % survival rate, why get vaxed?
The thing is, anybody expressing that sentiment, either DOESNT have somebody close to them predisposed to serious medical issues, or doesn’t see them enough to care.
It’s just one side. There’s plenty of reason to get it, just as there’s plenty of reasons to not

 

[zubenelgenubi]

Do you have basic chemistry knowledge?
I’m just trying to find the poisonous material in here

There is nothing chemically "poisonous", or dangerous, about the prion proteins that cause bovine encephalitis either, yet, somehow they are dangerous. Scientists still don't have that nut entirely cracked, but the current thinking is that the proteins fold incorrectly, and form determines function with proteins. These proteins, when contacting other proteins, cause them to refold improperly as well. So there you have that.

 

[Darmark7]

First time in history that the public wore mask to “Protect others” First time in history we take a vaccine to “protect others” Great way to get fearful sheep to do something they would of never fell before!
Can someone explain to me why all the other vaccines worked without everyone getting them yet all of a sudden this vaccine can’t?

 

[Darmark7]

So that we can get things moving again? Get small businesses back. Get lost jobs back. Encourage commerce again. We can’t have a society BASED on commerce full of people who don’t want to freaking commerce.
I’m not trying to be purposefully obtuse towards you or make light of your point whatsoever. It’s a valid point. If the disease has a 99 % survival rate, why get vaxed?
The thing is, anybody expressing that sentiment, either DOESNT have somebody close to them predisposed to serious medical issues, or doesn’t see them enough to care.
It’s just one side. There’s plenty of reason to get it, just as there’s plenty of reasons to not

Let‘s give up more of our rights so we can get our rights back! You fell for the BS!

Let’s all do as we are told and drink the Kool Aid so the ones forcing us to drink the Kool Aid will be nice to us again!

 

[zubenelgenubi]

I get it if you don’t want to vax.

I've had plenty, and if I had a good reason to again, I would. No problem

I get it, you believe the virus was created as a way to kill off the population, or an experiment of some sort, or something IDK what you actually believe other than NO WAY IM GETTING THAT *!!!

I never said no way I'm getting it. My price to be part of ongoing safety trials for experimental drugs is $5 million, two months in advance.

I know my rights!!!

Me defending my rights protects yours as well. See, there's one place that logic actually works.

I get it. You believe the government wants some of us to die. You believe that our financial contributions, and production is no longer of interest

Where did I say that? Are you projecting again?

I get it.

Not sure you do.

Fear, or trepidation, is quite normal. I don’t have any problem with fear, or trepidation

What you mistake for fear and trepidation is actually called prudence.

However, I keep reading you post this sentiment of “anybody who got the vaccine is stupid”

Nope, reckless, maybe. Not getting paid to be experimented on is kinda dumb, though.

So I’m just wondering Z
Which of the following ingredients do you have an issue with and would like to discuss?

See comment above.

mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2
[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-
phosphocholine, and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium
phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and sucrose.

Where’s the bad stuff, specifically?