Covid vaccine.

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Whatever makes you feel safe. Got it.

Not sure how my safety or feelings factor in.

Thanks for the completely off track, dissection of bipolar disorder that nobody asked for šŸ™„ you’re exhausting Z.
That was a dissection to you? Interesting.

So much dancing around,
I asked one off topic question based on the tone of your posts. The rest of the time I was following your lead after you responded to a post that wasn't directed at you. If I'm so exhausting, why even concern yourself?

I’ve just been trying to figure out why you’re so anti covid vax, trying to get you to spell it out for me and the rest of the class.
I was never coy or indirect. I spelled out very clearly the issues surrounding the vaccine, you come in with "what are you trying to say? Come on man, spit it out. Tell us what you really think." Like you were doing some Steve Martin comedy bit. Either very disingenuous, or very revealing of your comprehension level.

Sift through all your constant
ā€œBoy, I’m sure glad I didn’t get the vaccineā€ snide comments and get STRAIGHT TO THE POINT. That’s my purpose. I think we got there, I just had to put up with a lot of hyperbole along the way.
What hyperbole? You just make up utter nonsense to try to discredit people who say things you don't like.

When my side affects arrive, I’ll be sure to let you know

I'm sorry you caved to peer pressure to get a shot that doesn't have a sufficient safety track record enough to have been FDA approved yet. I'm sorry you feel like going whichever way the wind blows is a solid life plan. I hope you don't suffer any side effects, and that life turns out ok for you.
 

Netsua 3:16

AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
That was a dissection to you? Interesting.
Yes? You described the basis of, and your thoughts on bipolar disorder. Absolutely a dissection (albeit brief)
I mean, you serious? šŸ˜‚
ā€œyou think THAT was a dissection?ā€
Stop TRYING (and you do try) to sound smart, or better than, EVERY SINGLE time you type. THATS exhausting.

I asked one off topic question based on the tone of your posts. The rest of the time I was following your lead after you responded to a post that wasn't directed at you. If I'm so exhausting, why even concern yourself?
Because most of the time I enjoy your posts. I guess I want you to be a sensible, logical person to converse with because I’ve certainly learned from things you’ve posted thus far. It’s just not connecting with this vax thing.
I believe that you feed into the anti vax hysteria, more so because it aligns with your Agro-libertarian point of view, than because you actually believe it’s dangerous.
Because, based on the statistics, based on what’s ACTUALLY in the shot, you have nothing to worry about.
Ok, you have 000.1% to worry about. Kind of like riding an airplane.


I was never coy or indirect. I spelled out very clearly the issues surrounding the vaccine, you come in with "what are you trying to say? Come on man, spit it out? Tell us what you really think." Like you were doing some Steve Martin comedy bit. Either very disingenuous, or very revealing of your comprehension level.
You neglected to respond to direct accusations.
Well, you responded, but really all you did was tell me that you think I’m bipolar, or JUST manic, in about 500 unnecessary words.

What hyperbole?

I'm sorry you caved to peer pressure to get a shot that doesn't have a sufficient safety track record enough to have been FDA approved yet. I'm sorry you feel like going whichever way the wind blows is a solid life plan.
Hyperbole.
Exaggerated claims. You’re FULL of them bud šŸ˜‚
I mean, I am too, so….
 

Off the leash

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Yes? You described the basis of, and your thoughts on bipolar disorder. Absolutely a dissection (albeit brief)
I mean, you serious? šŸ˜‚
ā€œyou think THAT was a dissection?ā€
Stop TRYING (and you do try) to sound smart, or better than, EVERY SINGLE time you type. THATS exhausting.


Because most of the time I enjoy your posts. I guess I want you to be a sensible, logical person to converse with because I’ve certainly learned from things you’ve posted thus far. It’s just not connecting with this vax thing.
I believe that you feed into the anti vax hysteria, more so because it aligns with your Agro-libertarian point of view, than because you actually believe it’s dangerous.
Because, based on the statistics, based on what’s ACTUALLY in the shot, you have nothing to worry about.
Ok, you have 000.1% to worry about. Kind of like riding an airplane.



You neglected to respond to direct accusations.
Well, you responded, but really all you did was tell me that you think I’m bipolar, or JUST manic, in about 500 unnecessary words.


Hyperbole.
Exaggerated claims. You’re FULL of them bud šŸ˜‚
I mean, I am too, so….
Calm down
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
You guys still at it? Did anyone get any sleep last night? Doesn’t anyone have a job to be at? Or are we all retired? šŸ˜…
 

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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Yes? You described the basis of, and your thoughts on bipolar disorder. Absolutely a dissection (albeit brief)
I mean, you serious? šŸ˜‚
ā€œyou think THAT was a dissection?ā€
Stop TRYING (and you do try) to sound smart, or better than, EVERY SINGLE time you type. THATS exhausting.

My posts require very little effort on my part. Yet you claim to be exhausted. I wonder what an outside observer would think about that.

Because most of the time I enjoy your posts. I guess I want you to be a sensible, logical person to converse with because I’ve certainly learned from things you’ve posted thus far. It’s just not connecting with this vax thing.
You still haven't explained what I'm not being sensible about. I get that you decided to get the shot without thinking it through, and now you're seeing that other people have very good points about not getting it, and that makes you worried, and you just want some confirmation that you didn't just destroy your life because peer pressure. Ok. My hope is that the toll isn't that bad, and even if it is, I hope it doesn't affect you. That's about as much reassurance as I can give you.

I believe that you feed into the anti vax hysteria,
Do I? Like I've said, I have had plenty of vaccines, probably more than you, and if I felt a need to get another one, I would. There is just not enough safety track record for this "vaccine" for me to come to the decision to get it. I know, I know, I should calm down, I'm being hysterical.

I have always believed, and will continue to believe, that people should have a choice in all their medical decisions, and that no one should have any power to coerce people to do something against their will. It's not difficult.

more so because it aligns with your Agro-libertarian point of view, than because you actually believe it’s dangerous.
I have seen enough evidence to know there is a risk of complications, weighed against the risks of contracting the virus, vs the entirety of my health status, weighed against the desperation that the government and pharma are displaying in getting people to take it, all adds up to a big fat no from me.

I know it can be dangerous, and I hope that over the next 5 or more years, it proves not to be more dangerous than you believe it to be, but I think you're underestimating the risk as is.
Because, based on the statistics, based on what’s ACTUALLY in the shot, you have nothing to worry about.
I'm not going to argue the statistics with you, because I don't trust your source and it would be pointless. We've covered the "what's actually in the shot" argument before. Carbon and Nitrogen are essential to life, but put them together just right, and you get cyanide. Water is essential to life, yet 236,000 people died from drowning in it in 2019. Iron is necessary for human life, but you add a little carbon, heat it up and sharpen it, it becomes deadly. So, on the face of it, you "nothing dangerous in the shot" argument doesn't stand up. I'm not going to bother looking up every compound you listed to find an "A ha!"

Ok, you have 000.1% to worry about. Kind of like riding an airplane.

That's what you think. I avoid airplanes whenever possible too, and I certainly don't believe people should be forced to take airplane rides if they don't want to. Not a solid argument.

You neglected to respond to direct accusations.
You never made any, and I responded to all of your nebulous ones by telling you that I never said the things you were claiming I said.

Well, you responded, but really all you did was tell me that you think I’m bipolar, or JUST manic, in about 500 unnecessary words.

You counted the words? Or just being hyperbolic? Maybe OCD as well?

Hyperbole.
Exaggerated claims. You’re FULL of them bud šŸ˜‚
I use hyperbolic rhetoric, but you still haven't shown where I made a hyperbolic claim in this thread. I'm waiting. If you didn't keep changing the subject you might not be so exhausted.

I mean, I am too, so….
Ok.
 

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My posts require very little effort on my part. Yet you claim to be exhausted. I wonder what an outside observer would think about that.


You still haven't explained what I'm not being sensible about. I get that you decided to get the shot without thinking it through, and now you're seeing that other people have very good points about not getting it, and that makes you worried, and you just want some confirmation that you didn't just destroy your life because peer pressure. Ok. My hope is that the toll isn't that bad, and even if it is, I hope it doesn't affect you. That's about as much reassurance as I can give you.


Do I? Like I've said, I have had plenty of vaccines, probably more than you, and if I felt a need to get another one, I would. There is just not enough safety track record for this "vaccine" for me to come to the decision to get it. I know, I know, I should calm down, I'm being hysterical.

I have always believed, and will continue to believe, that people should have a choice in all their medical decisions, and that no one should have any power to coerce people to do something against their will. It's not difficult.


I have seen enough evidence to know there is a risk of complications, weighed against the risks of contracting the virus, vs the entirety of my health status, weighed against the desperation that the government and pharma are displaying in getting people to take it, all adds up to a big fat no from me.

I know it can be dangerous, and I hope that over the next 5 or more years, it proves not to be more dangerous than you believe it to be, but I think you're underestimating the risk as is.

I'm not going to argue the statistics with you, because I don't trust your source and it would be pointless. We've covered the "what's actually in the shot" argument before. Carbon and Nitrogen are essential to life, but put them together just right, and you get cyanide. Water is essential to life, yet 236,000 people died from drowning in it in 2019. Iron is necessary for human life, but you add a little carbon, heat it up and sharpen it, it becomes deadly. So, on the face of it, you "nothing dangerous in the shot" argument doesn't stand up. I'm not going to bother looking up every compound you listed to find an "A ha!"



That's what you think. I avoid airplanes whenever possible too, and I certainly don't believe people should be forced to take airplane rides if they don't want to. Not a solid argument.


You never made any, and I responded to all of your nebulous ones by telling you that I never said the things you were claiming I said.



You counted the words? Or just being hyperbolic? Maybe OCD as well?


I use hyperbolic rhetoric, but you still haven't shown where I made a hyperbolic claim in this thread. I'm waiting. If you didn't keep changing the subject you might not be so exhausted.


Ok.
Battle of the decade
 

Netsua 3:16

AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
My posts require very little effort on my part. Yet you claim to be exhausted. I wonder what an outside observer would think about that.


You still haven't explained what I'm not being sensible about. I get that you decided to get the shot without thinking it through, and now you're seeing that other people have very good points about not getting it, and that makes you worried, and you just want some confirmation that you didn't just destroy your life because peer pressure. Ok. My hope is that the toll isn't that bad, and even if it is, I hope it doesn't affect you. That's about as much reassurance as I can give you.


Do I? Like I've said, I have had plenty of vaccines, probably more than you, and if I felt a need to get another one, I would. There is just not enough safety track record for this "vaccine" for me to come to the decision to get it. I know, I know, I should calm down, I'm being hysterical.

I have always believed, and will continue to believe, that people should have a choice in all their medical decisions, and that no one should have any power to coerce people to do something against their will. It's not difficult.


I have seen enough evidence to know there is a risk of complications, weighed against the risks of contracting the virus, vs the entirety of my health status, weighed against the desperation that the government and pharma are displaying in getting people to take it, all adds up to a big fat no from me.

I know it can be dangerous, and I hope that over the next 5 or more years, it proves not to be more dangerous than you believe it to be, but I think you're underestimating the risk as is.

I'm not going to argue the statistics with you, because I don't trust your source and it would be pointless. We've covered the "what's actually in the shot" argument before. Carbon and Nitrogen are essential to life, but put them together just right, and you get cyanide. Water is essential to life, yet 236,000 people died from drowning in it in 2019. Iron is necessary for human life, but you add a little carbon, heat it up and sharpen it, it becomes deadly. So, on the face of it, you "nothing dangerous in the shot" argument doesn't stand up. I'm not going to bother looking up every compound you listed to find an "A ha!"



That's what you think. I avoid airplanes whenever possible too, and I certainly don't believe people should be forced to take airplane rides if they don't want to. Not a solid argument.


You never made any, and I responded to all of your nebulous ones by telling you that I never said the things you were claiming I said.



You counted the words? Or just being hyperbolic? Maybe OCD as well?


I use hyperbolic rhetoric, but you still haven't shown where I made a hyperbolic claim in this thread. I'm waiting. If you didn't keep changing the subject you might not be so exhausted.


Ok.
Dance! Dance monkey dance! Round and round in circles
You said
I said
You said
I said
Dance Z!!!!
 

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IDGAF who does or doesn’t get the vaccine! I don’t care what’s in it! As long as it’s not in me! I am NOT an anti vaccine! My son had all his childhood shots, I’ve had mine too. I just don’t want this one because I don’t think it’s been vetted enough, my opinion but that’s all that matters to me. If after another year or so things change maybe I’ll get it maybe I won’t, but it’s my choice! This vaccine just seems unnecessary for all but the most are risk.
 

Netsua 3:16

AND THAT’S THE BOTTOM LINE
I finally wore him out. Little guy's gonna sleep good tonight.
I’m not trying to discredit you šŸ™„ by pointing that you sound looney.
Im telling you that you sound like a loon, and challenging you to add some common sense into your Jack Handy deep thoughts once in a while. Stay in the shallow end of the pool.



You are much more concerned with ā€œsounding smartā€ then actually having a discussion. That’s what I’ve gathered from your extremely meticulous, awkward diatribes where you yield such POWER as to use an adjective, like ā€œyou’re reckless,ā€ as absolute fact. You authoritarian, you šŸ˜Ž
I stand by my accusations. You looney authoritarian, you.
ā€œI avoid planes tooā€ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚
 
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