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DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
When I made $10.85hr in 1998 after getting rehired at FedEx I was living at my mom's. In 2000 when I moved out I made $11.67hr. I never used those programs. Most people live with relatives, get roommates, do without amenities. I did without a car for years. Plenty of poor people always seem to have money for alcohol, cigarettes, pot, etc. I worked 3 jobs, 75 hours a week in my twenties until I became a courier. Didn't kill me. And never even occurred to me to ask the government for anything.
So your argument against $15 minimum wage is that you only made $17.36/hr in inflation adjusted hours when you were working a menial job to get by.

Makes no sense, try again.
 

LarryBird

Well-Known Member
What, and become a failure like you?
Failure, huh? Me?

I make $2k per week, my wife is the former homecoming queen of our high school, and she's both educated and cultured - she speaks a second language fluently, and she's still hot at the age of 37 years old - plus she likes to :censored2:. So my home life is pretty successful.

I own 2 beautiful cars - a used Infiniti G37x with less than 50k miles, and a brand new fully loaded Honda CR-V, and I also have a vintage motorcycle too - a Suzuki that I've converted into a cafe racer, plus a garage to put them all in, which means that I'm doing pretty good in the transportation dept as well.

I don't rent, and I have no mortgage either - the house/living situation is all paid for, and owned straight up, so I'm in the market and looking for a second vacation home on the water.

I have an appointment to go look at this house on the lake tomorrow:
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And if the price is right, I think this could be the one...

I'm not rich - but I am the American Dream, bitch...I live and breathe success every day of the week, Freddy Boy.

Failure isn't in my vocabulary.

But then again, I don't work for FredEx, and top out at $12 per hour below what UPS is paying the big dawgs who are full-time top rate, of which I am one. So I don't have to sweat poverty, and live on hot dogs - cause I'm a union teamster working for Big Brown and being successful just comes with the territory.

I don't think I even need to get into my investments, which you guessed it, are successful. They're up large and in charge. This kid is on track to bust out early. Boom.

Don't come at me, Fred. Especially with that failure bull:censored2:. I don't play when it comes to working hard to provide myself with the 'good life' as I know it.

I hope you're doing well in life too, @Fred's Myth...All of you, for that matter. But I especially worry about you FedEx boys - it's tough to make ends meet on Fat Flab Freddy's express slave wage, and even harder if you're one of the contractor's indentured servants, er employees on the ground tip.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
Failure, huh? Me?

I make $2k per week, my wife is the former homecoming queen of our high school, and she's both educated and cultured - she speaks a second language fluently, and she's still hot at the age of 37 years old - plus she likes to :censored2:. So my home life is pretty successful.

I own 2 beautiful cars - a used Infiniti G37x with less than 50k miles, and a brand new fully loaded Honda CR-V, and I also have a vintage motorcycle too - a Suzuki that I've converted into a cafe racer, plus a garage to put them all in, which means that I'm doing pretty good in the transportation dept as well.

I don't rent, and I have no mortgage either - the house/living situation is all paid for, and owned straight up, so I'm in the market and looking for a second vacation home on the water.

I have an appointment to go look at this house on the lake tomorrow: View attachment 253644
View attachment 253645 View attachment 253646
And if the price is right, I think this could be the one...

I'm not rich - but I am the American Dream, bitch...I live and breathe success every day of the week, Freddy Boy.

Failure isn't in my vocabulary.

But then again, I don't work for FredEx, and top out at $12 per hour below what UPS is paying the big dawgs who are full-time top rate, of which I am one. So I don't have to sweat poverty, and live on hot dogs - cause I'm a union teamster working for Big Brown and being successful just comes with the territory.

I don't think I even need to get into my investments, which you guessed it, are successful. They're up large and in charge. This kid is on track to bust out early. Boom.

Don't come at me, Fred. Especially with that failure bull:censored2:. I don't play when it comes to working hard to provide myself with the 'good life' as I know it.

I hope you're doing well in life too, @Fred's Myth...All of you, for that matter. But I especially worry about you FedEx boys - it's tough to make ends meet on Fat Flab Freddy's express slave wage, and even harder if you're one of the contractor's indentured servants, er employees on the ground tip.
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vantexan

Well-Known Member
So your argument against $15 minimum wage is that you only made $17.36/hr in inflation adjusted hours when you were working a menial job to get by.

Makes no sense, try again.
Who's arguing against it? My point was when I was making lower pay I didn't sign up for a bunch of government programs. Doubtful most people do unless they make really low pay.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Failure, huh? Me?

I make $2k per week, my wife is the former homecoming queen of our high school, and she's both educated and cultured - she speaks a second language fluently, and she's still hot at the age of 37 years old - plus she likes to :censored2:. So my home life is pretty successful.

I own 2 beautiful cars - a used Infiniti G37x with less than 50k miles, and a brand new fully loaded Honda CR-V, and I also have a vintage motorcycle too - a Suzuki that I've converted into a cafe racer, plus a garage to put them all in, which means that I'm doing pretty good in the transportation dept as well.

I don't rent, and I have no mortgage either - the house/living situation is all paid for, and owned straight up, so I'm in the market and looking for a second vacation home on the water.

I have an appointment to go look at this house on the lake tomorrow: View attachment 253644
View attachment 253645 View attachment 253646
And if the price is right, I think this could be the one...

I'm not rich - but I am the American Dream, bitch...I live and breathe success every day of the week, Freddy Boy.

Failure isn't in my vocabulary.

But then again, I don't work for FredEx, and top out at $12 per hour below what UPS is paying the big dawgs who are full-time top rate, of which I am one. So I don't have to sweat poverty, and live on hot dogs - cause I'm a union teamster working for Big Brown and being successful just comes with the territory.

I don't think I even need to get into my investments, which you guessed it, are successful. They're up large and in charge. This kid is on track to bust out early. Boom.

Don't come at me, Fred. Especially with that failure bull:censored2:. I don't play when it comes to working hard to provide myself with the 'good life' as I know it.

I hope you're doing well in life too, @Fred's Myth...All of you, for that matter. But I especially worry about you FedEx boys - it's tough to make ends meet on Fat Flab Freddy's express slave wage, and even harder if you're one of the contractor's indentured servants, er employees on the ground tip.
You're a narcissist. Failure of the worst kind.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Feeling like you need a flag or flag pin present to prove your patriotism only cheapens it.
So says the non- Patriotic folk.
They could of had 100 flags and 1000 pins and it wouldn't have mattered. Their responses and positions cheapened it enough.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
So you think 17 an hour is low pay.
The minimum wage back then was worth considerably more than today also. I'm perfectly fine with a $15hr minimum wage. Just saying for most people that's not enough to have the life they want. Neither is $17hr on your own. Either you have a spouse making similar and you get by ok, or you have roommates, or you do without things. Plenty of people make less than $17hr, and get by. Whether it's the life they want is an entirely different argument.
 

MyTripisCut

Tiyeeee-gyyyeah!
Failure, huh? Me?

I make $2k per week, my wife is the former homecoming queen of our high school, and she's both educated and cultured - she speaks a second language fluently, and she's still hot at the age of 37 years old - plus she likes to :censored2:. So my home life is pretty successful.

I own 2 beautiful cars - a used Infiniti G37x with less than 50k miles, and a brand new fully loaded Honda CR-V, and I also have a vintage motorcycle too - a Suzuki that I've converted into a cafe racer, plus a garage to put them all in, which means that I'm doing pretty good in the transportation dept as well.

I don't rent, and I have no mortgage either - the house/living situation is all paid for, and owned straight up, so I'm in the market and looking for a second vacation home on the water.

I have an appointment to go look at this house on the lake tomorrow: View attachment 253644
View attachment 253645 View attachment 253646
And if the price is right, I think this could be the one...

I'm not rich - but I am the American Dream, bitch...I live and breathe success every day of the week, Freddy Boy.

Failure isn't in my vocabulary.

But then again, I don't work for FredEx, and top out at $12 per hour below what UPS is paying the big dawgs who are full-time top rate, of which I am one. So I don't have to sweat poverty, and live on hot dogs - cause I'm a union teamster working for Big Brown and being successful just comes with the territory.

I don't think I even need to get into my investments, which you guessed it, are successful. They're up large and in charge. This kid is on track to bust out early. Boom.

Don't come at me, Fred. Especially with that failure bull:censored2:. I don't play when it comes to working hard to provide myself with the 'good life' as I know it.

I hope you're doing well in life too, @Fred's Myth...All of you, for that matter. But I especially worry about you FedEx boys - it's tough to make ends meet on Fat Flab Freddy's express slave wage, and even harder if you're one of the contractor's indentured servants, er employees on the ground tip.
Holy :censored2:, do you watch yourself in the mirror when you masturbate too? Lmfao and WDFD.
 

LarryBird

Well-Known Member
You're a narcissist. Failure of the worst kind.
I cannot deny some narcissistic tendencies.

I am self-aware. I am not hypocritical.

I will not claim to be an empath, during the times when I'm acting like a narcissist.

But my altruistic and empathetic side is more indicative of who I am in my day to day "real life", as opposed to the dick I can be on BrownCafe while arguing politics with true psychopaths and sociopaths - people who claim to be religious and compassionate, while voting exclusively for candidates and incumbents who look to cut funding to the social wellness programs and value big business/corporations over their constituency...Hypocrites, in other words.

This place can bring out my worst side at times, but I'm still a better person than 99% of the conservative bible beaters on this site - I know that for certain - because I live my morality in all my day to day dealings, and I vote my compassion, empathy, and belief system come election time. Unlike the TrumpTards here, the ones who quote bible verses, attend church on the reg, and then go against the teachings of Christ in their dealings and election of politicians - me me me, mine, mine, mine, my, my, my, don't take from me, that's mine not theirs, my hard earned money shouldn't go to help them.

However, I on the other hand, say, take some from me, I have plenty, and I'm fortunate. If my taxes rise a bit, to fund some social change and give poor people a helping hand, I'm fine with that - I am doing well.

Now, if we're talking taking more of my money to fund the military, and increases in their already retarded expenditures, then yes, that I have a huge problem with.

@TheBrownFlush, and the rest of the bible boys, should be asking themselves these questions at church tomorrow, while they're hopefully doing some soul searching: HWJV? WWJTT?...How would Jesus vote? What would Jesus think of Trump?

Report back with your answers after mass.







PS - I'm all about leaving your religion out of your politics, but since they do not, they should at least be sincere about their religion's teachings in relation to the challenges we face in our political decisions and the allocation of funding to social wellness programs for the poor and indigent - especially those who work and still can't make ends meet - Jesus would love and care for these people. He would shepherd them through their troubles, and tend to them, until they were able to come out on the other side of their hardships and look back at them in the rearview. If you're wearing your religion on your political sleeve, you can't just pick and choose which shirt you're gonna put on on a given day - abortion or compassion for the less fortunate - it's both or neither. You can't play the religious card with abortion and ignore it when it comes to social welfare - you wear the shirt everyday or you don't wear it at all, hypocrites.
 
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El Correcto

god is dead
Failure, huh? Me?

I make $2k per week, my wife is the former homecoming queen of our high school, and she's both educated and cultured - she speaks a second language fluently, and she's still hot at the age of 37 years old - plus she likes to :censored2:. So my home life is pretty successful.

I own 2 beautiful cars - a used Infiniti G37x with less than 50k miles, and a brand new fully loaded Honda CR-V, and I also have a vintage motorcycle too - a Suzuki that I've converted into a cafe racer, plus a garage to put them all in, which means that I'm doing pretty good in the transportation dept as well.

I don't rent, and I have no mortgage either - the house/living situation is all paid for, and owned straight up, so I'm in the market and looking for a second vacation home on the water.

I have an appointment to go look at this house on the lake tomorrow: View attachment 253644
View attachment 253645 View attachment 253646
And if the price is right, I think this could be the one...

I'm not rich - but I am the American Dream, bitch...I live and breathe success every day of the week, Freddy Boy.

Failure isn't in my vocabulary.

But then again, I don't work for FredEx, and top out at $12 per hour below what UPS is paying the big dawgs who are full-time top rate, of which I am one. So I don't have to sweat poverty, and live on hot dogs - cause I'm a union teamster working for Big Brown and being successful just comes with the territory.

I don't think I even need to get into my investments, which you guessed it, are successful. They're up large and in charge. This kid is on track to bust out early. Boom.

Don't come at me, Fred. Especially with that failure bull:censored2:. I don't play when it comes to working hard to provide myself with the 'good life' as I know it.

I hope you're doing well in life too, @Fred's Myth...All of you, for that matter. But I especially worry about you FedEx boys - it's tough to make ends meet on Fat Flab Freddy's express slave wage, and even harder if you're one of the contractor's indentured servants, er employees on the ground tip.
Take your meds Larry.
 

upsgrunt

Well-Known Member
I cannot deny some narcissistic tendencies.

I am self-aware. I am not hypocritical.

I will not claim to be an empath, during the times when I'm acting like a narcissist.

But my altruistic and empathetic side is more indicative of who I am in my day to day "real life", as opposed to the dick I can be on BrownCafe while arguing politics with true psychopaths and sociopaths - people who claim to be religious and compassionate, while voting exclusively for candidates and incumbents who look to cut funding to the social wellness programs and value big business/corporations over their constituency...Hypocrites, in other words.

This place can bring out my worst side at times, but I'm still a better person than 99% of the conservative bible beaters on this site - I know that for certain - because I live my morality in all my day to day dealings, and I vote my compassion, empathy, and belief system come election time. Unlike the TrumpTards here, the ones who quote bible verses, attend church on the reg, and then go against the teachings of Christ in their dealings and election of politicians - me me me, mine, mine, mine, my, my, my, don't take from me, that's mine not theirs, my hard earned money shouldn't go to help them.

However, I on the other hand, say, take some from me, I have plenty, and I'm fortunate. If my taxes rise a bit, to fund some social change and give poor people a helping hand, I'm fine with that - I am doing well.

Now, if we're talking taking more of my money to fund the military, and increases in their already retarded expenditures, then yes, that I have a huge problem with.

@TheBrownFlush, and the rest of the bible boys, should be asking themselves these questions at church tomorrow, while they're hopefully doing some soul searching: HWJV? WWJTT?...How would Jesus vote? What would Jesus think of Trump?

Report back with your answers after mass.







PS - I'm all about leaving your religion out of your politics, but since they do not, they should at least be sincere about their religion's teachings in relation to the challenges we face in our political decisions and the allocation of funding to social wellness programs for the poor and indigent - especially those who work and still can't make ends meet - Jesus would love and care for these people. He would shepherd them through their troubles, and tend to them, until they were able to come out on the other side of their hardships and look back at them in the rearview. If you're wearing your religion on your political sleeve, you can't just pick and choose which shirt you're gonna put on on a given day - abortion or compassion for the less fortunate - it's both or neither. You can't play the religious card with abortion and ignore it when it comes to social welfare - you wear the shirt everyday or you don't wear it at all, hypocrites.

You are a complete load of crap that talks out of both sides of your mouth, and have a textbook case of superiority complex.
 

LarryBird

Well-Known Member
Holy :censored2:, do you watch yourself in the mirror when you masturbate too? Lmfao and WDFD.

Take your meds Larry.
Was just responding to being called a "failure".

Felt it necessary to provide proof to the contrary, since in the eyes of the TrumpTards here, all of us Libs are dirtballs, who've made nothing of their life, and are looking for a handout.

Liberals are not failures. In fact, I'm pretty sure we've got a higher net worth, and yearly income on average, in relation to Republicans, but I'd have to check to be positive.

I consider conservatives to be failures, because of the fact that they've managed to go through their entire lives without learning the one simple lesson that we should all live by - the golden rule. I see liberals and democrats put that forward and live by it in most instances, and I see republicans and conservatives ignore it, pretend to abide, or flat out :censored2: all over the concept.

If we all followed the golden rule, even if it was just in this country alone, the world would be a 1000× better place to live, and we wouldn't have those bum encampments you TrumpTards love to hold up and deride...we'd be feeding, sheltering, and getting these people the medical attention they needed - contrary to popular conservative legend, these people on skid row are not lazy, they're :censored2:ing sick. They have mental issues and diseases.

We've pushed them aside and isolated and villainized them like modern day lepers, instead of taking care of them and using our wealth as a nation helping them.

As I've said before, you measure a society by how well they treat their lowest members. You don't need to worry about the wealthy and the vast swath who make up the average - of course, they're fine, and have a voice that's taken into consideration - they keep the electorate in office, and wining and dining at the DC power spots.

Poor people in the US don't have a voice, and conservatives wanna keep it that way.
 

cachmeifucan

Well-Known Member
So your argument against $15 minimum wage is that you only made $17.36/hr in inflation adjusted hours when you were working a menial job to get by.

Makes no sense, try again.
Huge companies can afford to pay more it's the small business owners it hurts. So take for instance illinois it obviously cost more to live in or close to Chicago but downstate is cheaper. so you tell me should someone at McDonald's in southern il make 15 when the cost of living is lower.
 

cachmeifucan

Well-Known Member
Some jobs are not meant for careers for 30 years. And if you choose to make a career out of Walmart you should move up the chain to management but if you don't move up whose fault is that.
 
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