Disturbing New Development

[bacha29]

You can redact the personal info of your drivers when you submit your documents.

The question going forward is whether X has overstepped their bounds in what would appear to be an overzealous attempt to cover their butts in an effort to extend the life of an ageing business model? Yes you can redact your employees personal info but the documents they demand are still the property of your corporation and are still privileged information regardless of it's size or the business activity it conducts with other parties.
Knowing that contractors are powerless to launch any type of organized resistance the question is how far and to what extent X will violate the law as it pertains to contractors in an effort to protect it's interests?

Once again the X mentality comes front and center.......It's legal until somebody with enough power to stop you does so.

 

[MassWineGuy]

You’re kidding, right? FedEx is very upfront that no employee should expect privacy in any way, shape or form at any time while on duty. This includes ... pretty much everything, except medical data (probably).

 

[vantexan]

You’re kidding, right? FedEx is very upfront that no employee should expect privacy in any way, shape or form at any time while on duty. This includes ... pretty much everything, except medical data (probably).

He's talking about the employees of "independent" contractors, not company employees.

 

[bbsam]

The question going forward is whether X has overstepped their bounds in what would appear to be an overzealous attempt to cover their butts in an effort to extend the life of an ageing business model? Yes you can redact your employees personal info but the documents they demand are still the property of your corporation and are still privileged information regardless of it's size or the business activity it conducts with other parties.
Knowing that contractors are powerless to launch any type of organized resistance the question is how far and to what extent X will violate the law as it pertains to contractors in an effort to protect it's interests?

Once again the X mentality comes front and center.......It's legal until somebody with enough power to stop you does so.

I can almost guarantee that zero contractors care.

 

[bacha29]

I can almost guarantee that zero contractors care.

No question about that. It is however because with X being their one and only customer they are as a result so completely powerless that they can't even exercise the rights afforded them by rule of law....... and with no measures or resistance in place to curb the abuses well get ready for a whole lot more from where it comes from.
It is unfortunate but a mere handful of astute and perceptive contractors cannot individually or collectively launch an effective legal challenge but rather can only continue to look for the most opportune time to exit what has been right from the beginning a complex collection of lies.

 

[vantexan]

No question about that. It is however because with X being their one and only customer they are as a result so completely powerless that they can't even exercise the rights afforded them by rule of law....... and with no measures or resistance in place to curb the abuses well get ready for a whole lot more from where it comes from.
It is unfortunate but a mere handful of astute and perceptive contractors cannot individually or collectively launch an effective legal challenge but rather can only continue to look for the most opportune time to exit what has been right from the beginning a complex collection of lies.

I may have missed it. Do contracts spell all of this out or is FedEx doing things not in the contractual agreements?

 

[Fred's Myth]

I can almost guarantee that zero contractors care.

Abstract thought: Do contractors celebrate July 4th?

 

[bbsam]

I may have missed it. Do contracts spell all of this out or is FedEx doing things not in the contractual agreements?

Yes. It is spelled out.

 

[bbsam]

Abstract thought: Do contractors celebrate July 4th?

I do.

 

[bbsam]

No question about that. It is however because with X being their one and only customer they are as a result so completely powerless that they can't even exercise the rights afforded them by rule of law....... and with no measures or resistance in place to curb the abuses well get ready for a whole lot more from where it comes from.
It is unfortunate but a mere handful of astute and perceptive contractors cannot individually or collectively launch an effective legal challenge but rather can only continue to look for the most opportune time to exit what has been right from the beginning a complex collection of lies.

What Is an Unconscionable Contract? | LegalMatch Law Library

 

[vantexan]

Yes. It is spelled out.

Then why is he upset?

 

[bbsam]

Then why is he upset?

Because he hates Fedex.

 

[Fred's Myth]

I do.

Independents Day....I

 

[vantexan]

Independents Day....I

But only if you're truly independent.

 

[bbsam]

But only if you're truly independent.

Such a silly word to get hung up on.

 

[bacha29]

But only if you're truly independent.

What troubles me is that it would appear that the settlement of the two largest class actions has emboldened X enough to take an even more hard line approach in it's dealings with contractors in order to make certain that it's command and control structure is never again threatened, wiping away the final few tattered and barely recognizable shreds of autonomy that did exist up until recently . The class action settlements required a charge against earnings and nicked the stock price for a short time and as a result X has taken a vindictive approach to contractors and has set out to recoup the 600+ million the settlement cost them.

Contracting? This isn't contracting.......It's servitude.

 

[bbsam]

What troubles me is that it would appear that the settlement of the two largest class actions has emboldened X enough to take an even more hard line approach in it's dealings with contractors in order to make certain that it's command and control structure is never again threatened, wiping away the final few tattered and barely recognizable shreds of autonomy that did exist up until recently . The class action settlements required a charge against earnings and nicked the stock price for a short time and as a result X has taken a vindictive approach to contractors and has set out to recoup the 600+ million the settlement cost them.

Contracting? This isn't contracting.......It's servitude.

Yes. Hey! I’ve got an idea. Let’s go punch the dragon in the nose again!

 

[Fred's Myth]

To paraphrase Paul Simon:
Where have you gone, Don Quixote,
Our indentured turn their lonely eyes to you.

 

[It will be fine]

Yes. Hey! I’ve got an idea. Let’s go punch the dragon in the nose again!

It’s alright, I hear the lawyers from the first round aren’t interested in taking anything about ISP. No collective action available with the arbitration clauses. It’s ride or die from here on out.

 

[bacha29]

To paraphrase Paul Simon:
Where have you gone, Don Quixote,
Our indentured turn their lonely eyes to you.

Here's to you Mrs. Robinson