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rickyb

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killing girls abroad and the rape that comes with war is expected of presidents and politicians, but having sex and beating them at home and us finding out about it is exceptionally bad

well over 1000 victims and epstein trafficked girls for over 25 years.

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Box Ox

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BadIdeaGuy said:
Are you suggesting that it's not possible to have a massive change of heart regarding politics?
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It's been known to happen.

DriveInDriѵeOut said:
Excellent job deflecting from Trump's association with Epstein! 50 rubles for you comrade.
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DriveInDriѵeOut said:
What, you thought Trump's child molesting was gonna go public? Don't be so naive.
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DriveInDriѵeOut said:
Bill Clinton was on Epstein's plane manifest about 30 times, hanging out on Pedo Island. Dirtbag Democrats, and you celebrate them. Shame on you fren.
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vantexan

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Doublestandards said:
To me right now Trump is doing the same thing with big government but without benefits I could accept with it

Added trillions to the debt

Going after states rights for issues like state voted marijuana or immigration issues

And the huge one for me is environmental issues. And goes against my normal view points but is where I would like some government protections and regulations. The original Big Beautiful Bill was going to sell off millions of acres of public lands. It’s one of Roosevelts greats feats imo and a part of what makes America so special and I don’t want to go backwards on that
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Has he added trillions to the debt? States rights on immigration? The Federal government is in charge of immigration. Not sure what you mean about marijuana other than ICE raided a marijuana farm the other day.

Did the BBB actually sell millions of acres of public lands? And Roosevelt was instrumental in creating national parks but Federal land encompasses a heck of a lot more than that.

I think you've been influenced by liberals looking to twist everything Trump is doing.
 
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vantexan

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Doublestandards said:
You’re right. And I think so far Trump has gone the wrong way on that issue. Marijuana, for example

“In 2018, the Trump administration quietly established the Marijuana Policy Coordination Committee, a federal task force coordinating anti-cannabis policy across agencies (like the DEA and ONDCP)”

“ Political analysis by MassCentral.com said the ONDCP is "required by statute to 'take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize'" cannabis at the federal level, and would be "intent on getting Donald Trump to reconsider his support for letting states go their own way in this area", labeling the effort anti-federalism.[9]”

Right now marijuana is schedule 1 federally. That means it is higher up than heroin.

The process to lower it to schedule 3 started under Biden and I hope it happens under Trump or goes even further, but I’m not holding my breath for it, but I will gladly give him props if he follows through on it and leaves it to the states
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OK, missed this about marijuana earlier. "60 Minutes", which is liberal and definitely not a Trump fan, did a segment years ago about how much stronger today's marijuana is than it used to be. They showed research being done that showed regular marijuana use among young adults was literally altering their brains. Turns out most people's brains aren't fully developed until they're 25-27 depending on the individual. Regular use before their brain fully develops has permanent effects on it. I've seen this with my stepdaughter. Very ambitious at 20, was managing a Firehouse Subs shop. 33 now and delivers groceries part-time. Smokes pot daily. Total leech. So I fully support any effort to keep pot out of the hands of young adults and teenagers.
 
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