FedEx eliminates Smartpost to the PO. UPS must eliminate Surepost to PO.

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by browned out, Nov 20, 2019.

  1. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    NMA Article 26 Section 4 (Starts at page 82)

    Nowhere in the four paragraphs does it mention SmartPost, let alone your contention that we would have to eliminate SurePost if they make the decision to retain and deliver it themselves.

    Nice try, thank for playing.
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    SurePost is not going anywhere. Should that be our volume? For the most part, absolutely.
     
  3. Boywondr

    Boywondr Newbie Doo

    Again, the word "post" on both services (fedex precipitated the offering first fyi) shows they are both taken to the post office. If they werent then the (service) volume wouldn't be named sure or smart post. It would just be ups or FDX volume not named post anything.

    You are the ignorant one who argues over the blatantly obvious.

    I thought you were leaving here as you posted last week. We have enough scabs posting in the union forum without needing another one with less than a 50 IQ.
     
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Would it make you feel better if they changed the name from SmartPost to CheapShipping?
     
  5. Boywondr

    Boywondr Newbie Doo

    The real question is how many of these shippers would contract their volume directly to the post office if the service was not an option any longer and as the escape clause in Art 26 alludes to would it be economically feasible for us to deliver the same volume at the same rates we provide thru surepost contracts given our union wages and benefits?

    The continuing violations of surepost language is garbage but there's a lot more going on behind the scene that we arent privy to and profit is the company's target, not volume.

    On a side note...
    I'd feel better if you quit posting stupidity on here.
     
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  6. zubenelgenubi

    zubenelgenubi Well-Known Member

    I wasn't arguing the point. Just pointing out that it's a big issue, and a potentially large win for the members. If they don't do the right thing at the national level, then we need to push it at the local level until they are forced to address it. Maybe it'll be in our favor, maybe not. I wonder how an arbitrator would interpret the language.
     
  7. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    This happens every single day, in every center. Not only that, but I am also seeing more and more packages that are too big for surepost.
     
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  8. Boywondr

    Boywondr Newbie Doo

    Lol. "3 cubic feet"? Ok
     
  9. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of own destiny


    I will not deliver it to the post office of it is too large. I will bring it to the customer or bring back for an address correction. If it is off my area
     
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  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    Let me get this straight-----the package has gone through the system and been correctly loaded on to your car to be delivered AS ADDRESSED to the Post Office and you take it upon yourself to bring it back to the center for an UNNECESSARY address correction simply because you felt it was outside of the Surepost size/weight restrictions?
     
  11. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of own destiny

    Yes I do. Every time. I also tell them what I'm doing.
     
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  12. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of own destiny

    Like the over 150.lbs go all thru the system. Never get cc'd either. I bring it back also. Tell them to get a hold of freight to deliver it
     
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  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    If the pkg is on your car and you are at the delivery point you need to get rid of it on the first attempt.

    See above.
     
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  14. burrheadd

    burrheadd KING Of GIFS

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  15. Go away Dan.


    Article 26
    (4) If a driver or inside employee identifies a package designated for Surepost that is clearly more than ten (10) pounds and/or larger than three cubic feet, the package can be removed from the system and redirected for delivery by a package driver unless the Employer cannot deliver to the specified address.
     
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  16. clipperman

    clipperman Member

    Specified address is the part they use against us,if it’s oversized or overweight and the address is to a PO Box then to the post office it goes since we don’t deliver to PO Boxes,is there a practice where you are that allows for an address correction?
     
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  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    He tends to make up his own rules as he goes along.
     
  18. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    Pot meet kettle.
     
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  19. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    He's following the rules. Our Preload here is great at catching oversize surepost. Loads of re-stickered surepost.
     
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  20. Boywondr

    Boywondr Newbie Doo

    Not really old man but I'm sure he can tell when the light is red when crossing the street.
     
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