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[Box Ox]

the south fought for states rights so in those southern states one of the benifits of victory would have been the right to enslave. But for how long. You could see that many prominent americans during that time even in the south did not believe in slavery or were developing feelings of empathy for thier slaves.

The Reasons for Secession

"Every state in the Confederacy issued an “Article of Secession” declaring their break from the Union. Four states went further. Texas, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina all issued additional documents, usually referred to as the “Declarations of Causes," which explain their decision to leave the Union. The documents can be found in their entirety here.

Two major themes emerge in these documents: slavery and states' rights. All four states strongly defend slavery while making varying claims related to states' rights. Other grievances, such as economic exploitation and the role of the military, receive limited attention in some of the documents. This article will present, in detail, everything that was said in the Declarations of Causes pertaining to these topics."

 

[Box Ox]

You said, "Oh, I'm with ya on all of Biden's weak points."
Exactly what is his strength?

He doesn't need to have any. He just needs to be an alternative to Trump.

 

[floridays]

He doesn't need to have any. He just needs to be an alternative to Trump.

We all drown faster if he wins.

 

[newfie]

The Reasons for Secession

"Every state in the Confederacy issued an “Article of Secession” declaring their break from the Union. Four states went further. Texas, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina all issued additional documents, usually referred to as the “Declarations of Causes," which explain their decision to leave the Union. The documents can be found in their entirety here.

Two major themes emerge in these documents: slavery and states' rights. All four states strongly defend slavery while making varying claims related to states' rights. Other grievances, such as economic exploitation and the role of the military, receive limited attention in some of the documents. This article will present, in detail, everything that was said in the Declarations of Causes pertaining to these topics."


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states rights

 

[Box Ox]

states rights

Wink wink

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Wink wink

The north was fighting for black people's freedom. Wink wink

 

[Old Man Jingles]

states rights

States Rights to have slaves!

 

[Old Man Jingles]

The north was fighting for black people's freedom. Wink wink

They were from 1864 on ... maybe.
At the start, they were mainly fighting to keep control of their colonies' cheap goods.

 

[newfie]

States Rights to have slaves!

part of it but much more complex then slavery

 

[Old Man Jingles]

part of it but much more complex then slavery

I understand but mainly it was to keep slavery in place.
Almost as much was the fact that the tariffs and trade restrictions on the South that the Northern states had in place to keep the agrarian South as a colony of the industrialized North which fall under the umbrella of States Rights as does slavery to some extent.
I researched and wrote a paper on this back in high school.
And a few other things.

 

[vantexan]

I'm a moderate southerner who acknowledges, as most moderate southerners do, that if the men who flew that Confederate battle flag had won the Civil War, black people would have continued to be enslaved in America. My southern ancestors were very brave, but their cause was wrong and their battle flag should not be honored.

Pretty much every Western nation except the U.S. had outlawed slavery by the time the Civil War started. If the South had won it would have eventually bowed to economic pressure to stop too. The difference would have most likely been that where Lincoln had stopped short of sending blacks out of the country the South probably would have found somewhere to export the majority of them.

 

[newfie]

Pretty much every Western nation except the U.S. had outlawed slavery by the time the Civil War started. If the South had won it would have eventually bowed to economic pressure to stop too.

Kind of where I'm at with this . days were numbered for slavery . The south was more interested in being free of yankee leadership and butting in their affairs.

 

[Box Ox]

"Every state in the Confederacy issued an “Article of Secession” declaring their break from the Union. Four states went further. Texas, Mississippi, Georgia and South Carolina all issued additional documents, usually referred to as the “Declarations of Causes," which explain their decision to leave the Union. The documents can be found in their entirety here.

I'll pull a little bit out of the Declarations of Causes in which these southern states specifically cite slavery as a reason for secession from the Union over the next few nights.

Tonight: Mississippi

Pretty much every Western nation except the U.S. had outlawed slavery by the time the Civil War started. If the South had won it would have eventually bowed to economic pressure to stop too.

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove."

 

[vantexan]

I'll pull a little bit out of the Declarations of Causes in which these southern states specifically cite slavery as a reason for secession from the Union over the next few nights.

Tonight: Mississippi



"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin. That we do not overstate the dangers to our institution, a reference to a few facts will sufficiently prove."

But then mechanization plus the eventual boycott would have had them rethinking their position. Why feed, clothe, and house hundreds, even thousands, when machines could do the work much more economically and efficiently? Slavery's days were numbered but the Civil War forced the issue to be resolved much faster.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Kind of where I'm at with this . days were numbered for slavery . The south was more interested in being free of yankee leadership and butting in their affairs.

Politically unacceptable ... although the British would continue to buy the South's cotton and
their colonial subjects were little more than slaves.

Mr. Boll Weevil and Mr. Cyrus McCormick would have eliminated the need for slaves in the Cotton Belt!

 

[Babagounj]

Do they plan on having a service in Congress for him, ya know like that KKK Senator ?

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Do they plan on having a service in Congress for him, ya know like that KKK Senator ?

McCain?

 

[newfie]

 

[newfie]