Goodbye to another corrupt Republican!!

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  1. The Other Side

    The Other Side Well-Known Troll Troll

    Ted Stevens loses Alaska Senate race

    ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Sen. Ted Stevens, the longest serving Republican in Senate history, narrowly lost his re-election bid Tuesday, marking the downfall of a Washington political power and Alaska icon who couldn't survive a conviction on federal corruption charges. His defeat by Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich moves Senate Democrats within two seats of a filibuster-proof 60-vote majority.
    Stevens' ouster on his 85th birthday marks an abrupt realignment in Alaska politics and will alter the power structure in the Senate, where he has served since the days of the Johnson administration while holding seats on some of the most influential committees in Congress.
    The crotchety octogenarian built like a birch sapling likes to encourage comparisons with the Incredible Hulk, but he occupies an outsized place in Alaska history. His involvement in politics dates to the days before Alaska statehood, and he is esteemed for his ability to secure billions of dollars in federal aid for transportation and military projects. The Anchorage airport bears his name; in Alaska, it's simply "Uncle Ted."
    Tuesday's tally of just over 24,000 absentee and other ballots gave Begich 150,728, or 47.76 percent, to 147,004, or 46.58 percent, for Stevens. There are about 2,500 overseas ballots yet to be counted.
    A recount is possible. If the vote differential between the two candidates is more than 0.5 percent, either side can seek a recount if it posts a bond of about $15,000 to pay for a new tally.
    Begich said the defining issue in the race was the desire for a new direction in Washington, not Stevens' legal problems.
    Alaska voters "wanted to see change," he told reporters in Anchorage. "Alaska has been in the midst of a generational shift — you could see it."

    Stevens' campaign didn't immediately respond to phone calls seeking comment.
    Stevens' loss was another slap for Republicans in a year that has seen the party lose control of the White House, as well as seats in the House and Senate. It also moves Democrats one step closer to the 60 votes needed to overcome filibusters in the Senate and gives President-elect Barack Obama a stronger hand when he assumes office on Jan. 20.
    Democrats now hold 58 seats, when two independents who align with Democrats are included, with undecided races in Minnesota and Georgia where two Republicans are trying to hang onto their seats.
    Democrats have now picked up seven Senate seats in the Nov. 4 election.
    "With seven seats and counting now added to the Democratic ranks in the Senate, we have an even stronger majority that will bring real change to America," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, said in a statement.
    The climactic count came after a series of tumultuous days for a senator who has been straddling challenges to his power both at home and in his trial in Washington. Notwithstanding all that turmoil, Stevens revealed Tuesday that he will not ask President George W. Bush to give him a pardon for his seven felony convictions.
    Stevens' future was murky at a time when newly elected members of both the House and Senate were on Capitol Hill for heady receptions, picture-taking sessions and orientation this week. Stevens, speaking earlier Tuesday in Washington, said he had no idea what his life would be like in January, when the 111th Congress convenes.
    "I wouldn't wish what I'm going through on anyone, my worst enemy," he lamented to reporters. "I haven't had a night's sleep for almost four months."
    Last month just days before the election, Stevens was convicted by a federal jury in Washington of lying on Senate disclosure forms to conceal more than $250,000 in gifts and home renovations from an oil field services company.
    His defeat could also allow Republican senators to sidestep the task of determining whether to kick out the longest serving member of their party in the Senate.

    When counting resumed Tuesday, 1,022 votes divided the candidates out of about 300,000 ballots cast. Most of the those votes came from areas that had favored Begich — the Anchorage vicinity and the southeastern panhandle around Juneau.
    It is a testament to Stevens' popularity — he was once named "Alaskan of the Century" — that he won nearly half the votes, even after his conviction. He routinely brought home the highest number of government dollars per capita in the nation — more than $9 billion in 2006 alone, according to one estimate.
    With Stevens gone "it's a big gap in dollars — billions of dollars — that none of the other members of the delegation, Begich, whoever, could fill," said Gerald McBeath, chair of the political science department at University of Alaska Fairbanks. "There is no immediate replacement for him."
    Following the trial Stevens said he wanted another term "because I love this land and its people" and vowed to press on with an appeal. Professing his innocence, he blamed his legal problems on his former friend Bill Allen, the founder and former chairman of VECO Corp., the government's star witness.
    In a state where oil and politics have always mixed, the conviction came as part of a long-running investigation into government corruption centered around VECO.
    Begich will be the first Democrat to represent Alaska in the Senate in nearly 30 years. He is the son of Nick Begich, Alaska's third congressman, who died in a plane crash 1972 while running for re-election.
    Stevens' lawyer demanded a speedy trial, hoping for exoneration in time to fight the first serious threat to his seat in decades. But the trial in Washington not only left Stevens a felon, it deprived him of time to campaign in his home state.
    Stevens refused pleas from his own party leaders to step down after the verdict, including Sen. John McCain, the GOP presidential nominee who said the Alaska senator had "broken his trust with the people."
    Stevens' fall came shortly after another Alaskan, Gov. Sarah Palin, emerged as a national figure on the Republican presidential ticket. She had called for Stevens to step aside at one point, but appeared to back away from that the day after the election when returns showed Stevens with an edge. "The people of Alaska just spoke,"
    she said.

    Good Riddance.:dead:
  2. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Amen to that. Sad they didn't do that in Alaska years ago. Just imagine the taxpayer money saved from all those earmarks and big spending!

    OOOpppps! My bad. I completely forgot Stevens was a member of the fiscally conservative party who advocated less spending and less gov't!

    Damn It TOS, you suppose to watch my back on stuff like that. Making me look bad!


    Can you really tell the difference between the 2 in the end?

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    No you can't!

    Nuff Said!
  3. Channahon

    Channahon New Member

    Why limit your post to one politician. Take a look at this link from Wikipedia, now this will bring some awareness to all political scandals, Democrats or Republicans. Nice list by State, and looks to me like the politicians just didn't have their constituents best interest, more like their own!!
  4. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member


    That's a good point but it presents a serious problem especially if you are wedded to either of the 2 political parties. The wiki link just proves IMO what I said all along and that is both parties are corrupt to their core and are not acting in the interest of the American people. This also goes to cut at the heart of the "cult of personality" that some famous political celebrity will now saw us via his magical manipulation of the powers of Washington DC.

    Other than that, excellent point.
  5. dannyboy

    dannyboy From the promised LAND

    i find it interesting that the same link you gave also has this

    one mans scandal is another mans claim to fame.......

    crazy world we live in.


    i think you need to understand, i believe that anyone that has been in the federal gooberment for more than a year needs to be replaced. and soon.

    they have lost sight of what their job actually is.

  6. drewed

    drewed Shankman

    Heres the point on big spending and earmarks, AK has everyother state in the union beat in size by atleast two fold, most of the infrastructure we have is based on money spent in ww2 and private firms. We re the most isolated state (except for hawaii) and most of the places in AK dont even have roads to them, you have to catch a bush plane or a ferry to get to them, so does a lot of money get thrown to AK? yes it does but thats because we didnt enjoy the benifits of the interstate acts, or even sharing a border with another state
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Do the residents still get the annual "royalty" checks from the oil companies?
  8. Bad Gas!

    Bad Gas! Active Member

    Here is another scandel not to forget.The kids nowadays read this in history:

    Students at a Pocono school were assigned to read 1 of 2 books, either 'Titanic' or 'My Life' by Bill Clinton.

    One student turned in the following book report, he said that they were nearly identical stories!

    His cool professor gave him an A+ for this report.
    Here's his comparison:

    Titanic:.... cost - $29.99
    Clinton :..... cost - $29.99

    Titanic:..... Over 3 hours to read
    Clinton :..... Over 3 hours to read

    Titanic:....! . The story of Jack and Rose, their forbidden love, and subsequent catastrophe.
    Clinton :..... The story of Bill and Monica, their forbidden love, and subsequent catastrophe.

    Titanic:..... Jack is a starving artist.
    Clinton :..... Bill is a bull:censored2::censored2::censored2::censored2: artist

    Titanic:.... In one scene, Jack enjoys a good cigar.
    Clinton :.... Ditto for Bill.

    Titanic:..... During the ordeal, Rose's dress gets ruined.
    Clinton :..... Ditto for Monica.

    Titanic:..... Jack teaches Rose to spit.
    Clinton :..... Let's not go there.

    Titanic:.... Rose gets to keep her jewellery
    Clinton :.... Monica is forced to return her gifts.

    Titanic:..... Rose remembers Jack for the rest of her life.
    Clinton :.... Clinton doesn't remember Jack.

    Titanic:..... Rose goes down on a vessel full of seamen.
    Clinton :..... Monica...ooh, let's not go there, either.

    Titanic:..... Jack surrenders to an icy death.
    Clinton :.... Bill goes home to Hilary - basically the same thing

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  9. drewed

    drewed Shankman

    Its not a royalty check and its not from the oil companies (well atleast directly)
    Oil companies are taxed, they help pay for the AK gov't surplus in that is invested and each year a perctage of the income from that is doled out to the citizens and some of it being reinvested.
  10. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    If you automatically removed from public office everyone who has been charged / convicted of a crime, Congress would be a rather empty building.
    What is missing from the list is all the DUI's, DWI's, hit & runs, vice stings.
  11. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    The irony in all of this is how much of Alaska's lands and resources are actually controlled at the Federal level to begin with. I'd like to see someone do an indepth study with access to all the facts and figures and then show a side by side comparison of the cost of Alaska getting monies from Washington verses the cost and then what Alaska really gives to Washington and the way of return. This is one of the driving forces behind the Alaska independence movement as they believe if the State itself owned and control it's own resources and kept that money at home, not only would they be far better off but thay could do things even cheaper and there in the end do more with less money.

    Sarah Palin I believe knows this but what will she do as relates to the Lord Acton principle? Will she speak to power or become corrupted by it now that she's had a taste?
  12. Channahon

    Channahon New Member

    The man is 85 years old, and may not have lasted another term. That may have been a factor in him losing the race. Along with his conviction on accepting favors for personal gain, on his chalet in Alaska.

    None the less, he received a standing ovation during his speech, stating it would be the last time he would be speaking from the podium. My first thought was, how can he receive a standing ovation as being convicted of a crime, but he probably had a good career until then, and as a sign of respect for his contributions, he was able to leave the senate with dignity.
  13. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    It's called professional courtesy! National Geogrpaphic has documented this behavior among sharks when involved in a feeding frenzy. It's also been suggested sharks will extend this same respect to lawyers but it's never been documented on film! :happy-very: Old but funny joke!

    Did you ever sit back and watch when one of their own (gov't) gets caught in some wrong how they cirlce the wagons to defend them. Only time they back away is when it becomes to overwhelming or the opposing party has more power to make issue for political advantage.

    Stevens was convicted of using his office for personal advantage which betrayed the public trust. In many respects, that's the worst crime they could commit. Instead, they shower him with adolations and treat him like some honorable King.

    It speaks loudly but we just refuse to listen!
  14. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    I think it was simply showing respect for his years of service. But I do like your explanation. The shark part was particularly creative.