Got let go

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by JR6G, May 13, 2020.

  1. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver


    Define attendance issues?

    We have had guys with 10 NC/NS, 50 call offs, 30 late and still around but it doesn't stop the fact that they should be fired. They just fill a spot on the seniority list so the sups can work and say they were short handed. It doesn't work because they end up paying anyway.
     
  2. 60lbBagofdogfood

    60lbBagofdogfood Active Member

  3. Est.1998

    Est.1998 Active Member

    What's your position at UPS?
    It's almost impossible to be fired for attendance.
    You would have to NC/NS 3 consecutive days and if you did that, you wasn't fired, you quit.
     
  4. Boston25

    Boston25 Active Member

    So I take it you filed a grievance. How long have you been with UPS? If you do get your job back do what everyone esle says and do FMLA and cover your ass. You can use intermittent fmla time and use it as need be.
     
  5. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    For some reason, people start these threads.... never to return.



    FMLA is not "automatic".

    Members are required, to fulfill the contractual requirements.


    https://teamster.org/sites/default/files/ups18nationalmaster.pdf



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  6. Boston25

    Boston25 Active Member

    True it isn’t automatic but assuming he’s been with the company for some time etc.
     
  7. Waldo

    Waldo Member

    FMLA depends on if he’s FT or PT. Most part-timers don’t qualify for FMLA. You have to average at least 25 hours a week for the past year.
     
  8. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Not if you've been here for 3 years or more.
     
  9. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    FMLA is federal government based rules and those say you have to work at least 1250 in any 1 year. For UPS, the year is rolling so you have to qualify based on month to month. Example...….today is May 29....if I apply today, I would be seeing if I had 1250 hours worked back to May 30, 2019. The company doesn't have to apply fmla for anyone that doesn't qualify. It would go to contract language if you don't.
     
  10. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    National Master

    Article 16

    Section 6. Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA)

    All employees who have worked for the Company for a minimum of twelve (12) months and worked at least 1250 hours during the past twelve (12) months are eligible for unpaid leave as set forth in the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993.

    Additionally, any employee not covered above, that has worked for the Company for a minimum of thirty-six (36) months and accrued at least 625 paid hours during the past twelve (12) months is eligible for unpaid leave as set forth below, except that the amount of leave allowed will be computed at one half (1/2) of the time provided by the FMLA.
     
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  11. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    Again, the 625 hour provision is not FMLA. It is a contract item but it sounds like this guy is newer and not going to have 3 years seniority.
     
  12. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    I never said it was FMLA law. I just said that if he has worked for us for at least 3 years, he only needs to have worked 650 hours to qualify for 6 weeks of leave. You said he can only qualify for FMLA leave if he has worked 1250 hours. You forgot to mention that he can qualify for 6 weeks under the contract.

    Whether it is contractual, or law, he can qualify for 6 weeks if he has been here at least 3 years.
     
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  13. mathdad

    mathdad New Member

    Burger King is offering $14/hr around here.
     
  14. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    Free food?
     
  15. Netsua 3:16

    Netsua 3:16 Stop being a little bitch

    Man....my brother worked at bk as his first job after high school and we were sharing an apartment....I swear to god I ate 5-10 free double cheeseburgers a week, it was awesome
     
  16. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver


    My original reply was based on Boston25 telling the guy to apply for FMLA. Just pointing out that most P/T employees don't qualify and then showing why.
     
  17. I have been lurking

    I have been lurking Masked and ready

    He'll forget the onion ring dip