Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by GetTacosOrDieTrying, Aug 20, 2015.
can you file a grievance on say a Manager or DM if they are doing Union work to push production?
Yes! Hit them with the 1, 2. File a grievance, and then smack them with our contract.
Certain exceptions exist for, say, an Act of God or if they've tried to call in doubles and have exhausted every means of trying to get bargaining unit members in to get the work done. But this probably wasn't the case.
A DM doing union member work? You'll never win, nobody would believe you.
He can simply record the DM working with his cellphone for proof.
Not a good idea to record UPS property on UPS property while on the clock.
A DM doing something other than sitting in their office screamin at folks?
THAT would be a first!
We had a girl record the sort manager working on her phone. Walked her out just a month short of 25 years. Never saw her again.
I can see recording something on a phone while on th clock as "stealing time". The DM part was more of the extreme case. More so the manager doing Union work. By the sound of things one would need to rally by the squad and have multiple people back the grievance to make anything stick.
No, it has more to do with Information Security than anything else. UPS doesn't want it's information out there on the web for competitors to see. Also a manager doing hourly work doesn't always use hand to surface, walks on moving belts, slides, etc. It just makes us look bad.
I have heard of Full Time Sups being grieved successfully in my local for blatant violations of the contract, but never a DM. When he is here, our DM just walks around all the time with a worried look on his face and questions the ft and pt sups about the operation. Hourly work would be way beneath him, and rightly so. But get witnesses, it might work.
I've seen co-workers do it.
Don't do it.
You don't want to be the first they enforce the policy with.
You can videotape anything it can't be on UPS property though it's in the employee manual. And not knowing it's in it won't save you.
i was just curious to as is it possible and would the union back it. Since management and up is a bit different the p/t,f/t sups
Is it possible? Anything is possible.
Would the Union back it? Not a chance.
Which is pretty lame being we pay dues to them.
Your BA must have a working relationship with both the center manager and DM. Signing off on frivolous grievances would seriously erode that relationship.
There's nothing frivolous about upper management stealing union money. However, I seriously doubt anyone at that level would ever touch cardboard.
Consider the media is always across the street when they film a story about an event at a UPS location.
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