Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by wkmac, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

  2. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Let the gnashing of teeth begin...
  3. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Key quote:

    "There's not a dime's worth of difference between them..."

    We're so effed.
  4. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Au Contraire my freethinking friend. With every election, more and more people come to the same conclusion and in growing numbers, at least abandon the 2 political parties and their beauty queen candidates. What happens when on any given election, the 2 parties can only muster about 25% total between them the support of all eligible voters and the 75% either vote elsewhere, don't vote especially in national elections or just do something more constructive on election day?

    Once the weapon of fear no longer works, what do they have then? Nothing! Absolutely NOTHING!

    We're not "effed" at all, I feel really good about the future. Once people understand that traffic is great when you remove the traffic lights, the game is up!
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    What I find most troubling is that in 2006 63 million voted on American Idol. The most votes obtained by a US President was 54.5 million in 1984 (Ronald Reagan).
  6. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Maybe the 63 million felt they got more value from their vote on American Idol than in voting for a President. When fictional interests spend billions which on scale of economics easily override the interests of citizens and what they might be able to pay, maybe those American Idol numbers really are telling us something.
  7. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    The analogy doesn't always hold...I live right outside of Boston, and when the traffic lights break down (both sides default to 'blinky-blinky'), it's basically a clstrfk of epic proportions.

    Maybe it's where I live, but people here do poorly even with proper direction...without it, it's a complete mess.

    I simply cannot imagine what would happen if Boston proper needed to be evacuated...
  8. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    Then it's obvious that Boston and by extension Mass. needs to be a totalitarian state for it's own good.
  9. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    The right good citizens of Cambridge, MA agree with you!
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    It's hard enough to get out of Boston after a Sox game.....I also can't imagine having to evacuate the whole city...
  11. Few pics come to mind on the two candidates(without being racist). :D
  12. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    I was highly amused today when a Paul bot got on the Niel Boortz show and tried telling Niel, a self proclaimed libertarian, that there wasn't a bit of difference between Obama and Romney. Niel swiftly kicked him off the air and told him he didn't have the mental capacity to participate in his show. I couldn't agree more, and if you think there really is no difference between the two candidates then you simply are not paying attention.
  13. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    I can never tell if N. Boortz is being serious or if he believes everything he says.

    There is something to playing up to your audience's expectations.
  14. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    I'd say he does. It would he pretty hard to fake a certain viewpoint for 42 years.
  15. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

  16. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    If every eligible American citizen voted this election,who would win?
  17. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Obama, hands down.

    Now, if every unregistered (but eligible) citizen were to register to vote, and then voted:

    Obama landslide.

    The blessing/curse of the US participatory democracy is its just that, participatory.

    I'd like to say that everyone in the US should be required to vote (it's not that hard, people), but in order to implement that requirement, we would need radical change implemented on such a variety of levels, and it simply won't happen.

    In the US, we can't even figure out who among the registered and eligible voters will still be 'registered and eligible' by election time.

    (Am I an 'apologist' for America?...lulz)
  18. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    Maybe you are right,but being that it's just your opinion,I put forth that the Obama opposition,
    that never bothers to vote would be out in full force .
  19. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    That would be one law I'd break and do so any chance I got. And I'd bet I wouldn't be alone either!
  20. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Sir, you are possibly correct.

    As to your original question, "if every eligible American citizen voted in this election..."

    "Eligible" does not mean registered.

    In addition, registered voters may not actually vote (both parties included, for various reasons).


    This time around, the 'Obama opposition' just might 'bother' to come out and vote...we'll see, but it will include folks who voted for Obama the first time.

    Even if 'these people' aren't sold on Romney, it's possible that these voters want a different path for the country, so much so that they'll show up to the booth and pick Mitt.

    But Romney is not making a particularly forceful/detailed/coherent argument about why the this category should vote for him.

    At this point, it seems like the battle lines are mostly drawn...some on the right are saying stuff about Mitt:

    "...if (Romney) can't win this election (against the intellectual-Socialist Obama vs. our ruined economy), then we should just shut down the whole party."

    Lot's of love (from the RW pundits) for Mitt this last week...people want him because he's not Barack Obama, not because he's Mitt Romney.

    We'll see what happens with the debates.