How do occurencies work?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by QuietStorm, Oct 29, 2010.

  1. QuietStorm

    QuietStorm New Member

    How many occurencies can you get before you get a verbal and so on? And when do they fall off is it every 3 months or 6 months?
  2. Billy

    Billy New Member

    really depends on what it is. You may receive a termination on the first offense if it's bad enough. Generally a warning letter is issued, and can be used as the stepping stone for further discipline for 9 months.
  3. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Are you talking absenteeism? Here, you can have 5 occurrences in a year. After 5, they can begin discipline.

    Remember, 2 or more consecutive days = 1 occurrence.

    Check your supplement!
  4. QuietStorm

    QuietStorm New Member

    Yes Im talking about as far as calling in(being absent). I don't miss much but was just wondering.... Do you know when they fall off?
  5. FracusBrown

    FracusBrown Ponies and Planes

    Miss one day beyond the number of optionals and sick days available and discipline begins HERE. By the fifth day, they would likely be terminated.
  6. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

  7. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    Wow.. your local supplement sucks. I've never heard the disciplinary progressions starting that early.
  8. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    You will learn that what type of discipline a person receives for the same infractions varies individual to individual.
  9. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    depends if your a driver or inside hub employee,if your inside then you could probably miss as many days as you like before real dicipline would occur.if your a driver than its a different story,i know drivers that have been talked to about attendance for 5 call ins in a year.there is no language in my supplement or master that states you can only miss x amount of days before dicipline will begin.if you get a warning letter for attendance it will stay with you for nine months.if you can choose option 3 and use the sick days they cant touch you on sick days.
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Here's a thought--why don't you just show up when you are supposed to?
  11. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    Times about fifty.
  12. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    sometimes things happen,like kids get sick,wife gets sick,people die,cars break down.sometimes you have to miss work.
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    ...and that's when you pick up the phone and let them know that something happened. If you are out of days it is their discretion as to whether you get the day off.
  14. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Don't forget about FMLA, especially the intermittent version.
    Gives you a total of 60 random days off, unpaid, to resolve many issues that would otherwise trash your attendance record.
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Good point.
  16. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    when i call in its not bargaining,its me letting them know i wont be at work today regardless of what they say and regardless if i have days or they have the option to dicipline me for my attendance if they choose but thats the only option they have.
  17. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member

    :wink2:Every individual should carefully weigh out any cafe advice before running full steam ahead. People have said here as long as you are using your sick days no problem --try taking all fridays off sick in July or try taking two or three Mondays in a row --there are many things that can open the door to discipline ---the correct advice is do not play games -be responsible to both job and family and use sick days when absolutely needed ---otherwise the door is open !
  18. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    Is it really that cut-throat on the ft driving side? I had no idea. I thought you FT drivers were on the attendance "occurrences" system like us inside workers
  19. 22.34life

    22.34life Active Member

    there is a difference between talking sh** and taking diciplinary action.if you took 4 fridays off in a row in july and used sick days THEY CAN NOT DICIPLINE YOU FOR THAT,but they can retaliate agaist you for that,thats what the grievance procedure is for.