Capitalism isn't perfect but it has brought more people out of poverty than any other system in history. Your problem is you think everyone can live well with a lot of leisure time and minimal effort put in. It's a fantasy you've bought into.
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Slavery improved standards of living so your first assertion is moot
Standards of living are falling now
I worked for a company that watched everything closely and demanded productivity. It's called helping your company succeed. I would hope someone like you would get fired very quickly from my company and I've seen a few that have. You think you're clever and sticking it to the man but all you're doing is showing the lack of character you have. Paychecks don't just happen. Most have to work so that the company can make enough to pay everyone. You think you're above it all but you aren't above taking their money. Money provided to you by the efforts of your co-workers. How pathetic.
More stupidity from you.
Its more accurately called making the capitalist more money and not being recognized for it.
I am sortve clever actually
What do you mean money provided by the efforts of coworkers lol? Are you agreeing with me that workers create the profits not owners
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It did as a fact.
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So your argument is that slavery improves standards of living for the enslaved if the “owners” treat them well? Are you pro-slavery under that condition then?
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Do you think he would rather be one of those slaves or an owner?
Standards of living improving is no justification for a system
Slaves in 1850 had better standards than 1750
There are many levels of employees who are paid according to the benefit they give the company. And the owners of corporations are stockholders. Own a share of stock? That entitles you to a dividend if one is paid. It also allows you a vote in how the company is run. You're an employee? That entitles you to a paycheck to support yourself. Don't like your paycheck? Then get training in something that will get you a better job at your company or elsewhere. Yes, you do own your labor. Your timecard is your bill to your company for the labor you performed. It does not entitle you to tell a company owner how to run his business. And that a grown man has to have this explained to him is pathetic.
Because it was 1850 and not 1750.
So it's still strange that you're saying slavery improves standards of living for the enslaved if their "owners" are nice. That naturally implies that you believe slavery is a good thing under that condition.
I think you're stuck because you're always referring to workers under capitalism as the enslaved. And it's clear that capitalism has raised standards of living for workers. So you have to try and pretend that chattel slavery and workers under capitalism are the same thing.
Employees are not paid based on benefit to the company.
Power corrupts. That means were entitled to have a share of that power so we dont become victims of it, as we currently are
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Capitalism also raised standards of living which again is no justification for it
So by your reasoning communism is fine even if it doesn't raise the standard of living. So being miserable together to you is ok as long as everyone is equal. It apparently gets under your skin that people live comfortably in 1500 sq ft homes with plenty.to eat, decent clothes to wear but they don't have the 10,000 sq ft home the rich guy has plus all his expensive vehicles and toys. That's the world that capitalism gets for most but to you it isn't fair. How dare that rich guy have it so much better than you!
No I didn't. It was said in the video you linked me to when I asked how you think slavery improved standards of living for slaves.
They most certainly are. If you have a skill anyone can do you get mediocre pay. If you have a skill that is in demand that will help your company make money they will pay you better than the mediocre employees. Fact of life.
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