I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

[newfie]

So it's still strange that you're saying slavery improves standards of living for the enslaved if their "owners" are nice. That naturally implies that you believe slavery is a good thing under that condition.

kind of like communism

 

[rickyb]

kind of like communism

You were almost a statistic

 

[vantexan]

One example is in italy the govt will give so many unrmployed ppl their ei in lump sum to start a coop

Another would be a bank loan

Another would be if you have your own money


Everyone has evil in them

Then why doesn't the employee do that instead of taking a job and work for someone?

And everyone has the potential for evil in them. Starting a legitimate, legal business isn't evil. You seem to think it is. If a person starts a business and only works for himself is he still evil? If he gets busy enough to need help should he turn down the extra work or should he create a job that will allow the person working for him to be able to feed himself and pay his rent? Should he only hire someone who makes as much as he does and can say how things are done?

 

[rickyb]

Then why doesn't the employee do that instead of taking a job and work for someone?

And everyone has the potential for evil in them. Starting a legitimate, legal business isn't evil. You seem to think it is. If a person starts a business and only works for himself is he still evil? If he gets busy enough to need help should he turn down the extra work or should he create a job that will allow the person working for him to be able to feed himself and pay his rent? Should he only hire someone who makes as much as he does and can say how things are done?

Business is often evil

It should be a partnership. 1 worker 1 vote.

Why did slavery last hundreds of years? Probably partly bc those who control the economy, control wat we think. This was a message in the matrix btw. There was "moral" arguments for slavery which chomsky mentioned in that video

 

[vantexan]

Business is often evil

It should be a partnership. 1 worker 1 vote.

Why did slavery last hundreds of years? Probably partly bc those who control the economy, control wat we think. This was a message in the matrix btw. There was "moral" arguments for slavery which chomsky mentioned in that video

You're not answering my questions. And providing goods and services people need isn't evil. And has nothing to do with slavery.

 

[rickyb]

You're not answering my questions. And providing goods and services people need isn't evil. And has nothing to do with slavery.

youre very confused.

 

[vantexan]

youre very confused.

Says you lol.

 

[rickyb]

Says you lol.

by 99% of the population accepting the programming of the matrix, it goes to say theyre misled.

having said that, with knowledge comes ignorance and in a sense even i will never fully know.

 

[rickyb]

young kid debates michael albert

happy may day

 

[rickyb]

here we go i found the reagan quote and the book to go with it @newfie @vantexan @Box Ox

Can worker cooperatives alleviate income inequality? — Cooperation Jackson

In Jackson, Mississippi, Kali Akuno expected to help develop worker cooperatives alongside that city’s new mayor , Chokwe Lumumba, who won office in 2013. But Lumumba died of a heart attack Feb. 25, a few months into his term . Now supporters are wondering what will happen to th

cooperationjackson.org

it was easily found but unfortunately the hard truth can begin a pain mechanism on most people so i understand maybe why you didnt find it yourself after what i told you.

we shouldnt put much importance on what reagan said, he had mental problems in his late years.

 

[rickyb]

@Thebrownblob yea i checked out what nader said about the democrats im not sure if it matches with trump, i know clinton balanced the budget, was tough on crime in a bad way, not sure about immigration. but i really dont think theyre the same. id like to see what howard zinn said about them in that time and maybeee oliver stones untold history. i know it was the beginning of the end for them around then.

i think really they may have a few things in common with trump but theres a difference in trump. hedges says trump admires putins style of governance so i think that could be the difference, although with at least obama it was a slide towards authoritarianism. idk about biden. i think with aristotle saying with great wealth inequality comes authoritarianism that takes some of the blame off trump.

 

[vantexan]

here we go i found the reagan quote and the book to go with it @newfie @vantexan @Box Ox
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Can worker cooperatives alleviate income inequality? — Cooperation Jackson

In Jackson, Mississippi, Kali Akuno expected to help develop worker cooperatives alongside that city’s new mayor , Chokwe Lumumba, who won office in 2013. But Lumumba died of a heart attack Feb. 25, a few months into his term . Now supporters are wondering what will happen to th

cooperationjackson.org

it was easily found but unfortunately the hard truth can begin a pain mechanism on most people so i understand maybe why you didnt find it yourself after what i told you.

we shouldnt put much importance on what reagan said, he had mental problems in his late years.

There's nothing in that statement that suggests Reagan was against capitalism and for socialism.

 

[vantexan]

@Thebrownblob yea i checked out what nader said about the democrats im not sure if it matches with trump, i know clinton balanced the budget, was tough on crime in a bad way, not sure about immigration. but i really dont think theyre the same. id like to see what howard zinn said about them in that time and maybeee oliver stones untold history. i know it was the beginning of the end for them around then.

i think really they may have a few things in common with trump but theres a difference in trump. hedges says trump admires putins style of governance so i think that could be the difference, although with at least obama it was a slide towards authoritarianism. idk about biden. i think with aristotle saying with great wealth inequality comes authoritarianism that takes some of the blame off trump.

Clinton didn't balance the budget. Newt Gingrich and the Republican Congress balanced the budget. Clinton just signed it into law.