I drink your milkshake! a metaphor for capitalism

[Thebrownblob]

You don't seem to understand politics. People believed back then that NAFTA would work out better for everyone. If Clinton had vetoed the bill the veto would have likely been overridden. If it had it would have weakened Clinton and hurt his chances for reelection. And for getting his liberal agenda passed. As was his liberal agenda caused him to lose Congress in the midterms and thus his shift to the right to get reelected.

Not sure exactly exactly that’s correct. I spent many hours at Union meetings in the 90s with Union official telling us Union members that NAFTA would be a disaster for working people. I believe
They were actually correct.

Clinton Hits Labor on NAFTA Tactics : Policy: President blames 'raw muscle' of unions for his difficulties in getting free trade pact votes. He warns that race relations continue to deteriorate in cities.

In an unusually sharp critique of one of his party's most influential constituencies, President Clinton on Sunday blamed the "roughshod, muscle-bound tactics" of organized labor for the difficulty he faces in winning ratification of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

www.latimes.com

 

[oldngray]

Not sure exactly exactly that’s correct. I spent many hours at Union meetings in the 90s with Union official telling us Union members that NAFTA would be a disaster for working people. I believe
They were actually correct.

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Clinton Hits Labor on NAFTA Tactics : Policy: President blames 'raw muscle' of unions for his difficulties in getting free trade pact votes. He warns that race relations continue to deteriorate in cities.

In an unusually sharp critique of one of his party's most influential constituencies, President Clinton on Sunday blamed the "roughshod, muscle-bound tactics" of organized labor for the difficulty he faces in winning ratification of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

www.latimes.com

I think most people expected NAFTA to fail.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I think most people expected NAFTA to fail.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-25/bill-clinton-stopped-at-nothing-in-fight-for-nafta

NAFTA, Twenty Years After: A Disaster

The post originally appeared on The Huffington Post. New Year's Day, 2014, marks the 20th anniversary of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). The Agreement created a common market for goods, services and investment capital with Canada and Mexico. And it opened the door through which...

www.epi.org

 

[oldngray]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-25/bill-clinton-stopped-at-nothing-in-fight-for-nafta

NAFTA, Twenty Years After: A Disaster

The post originally appeared on The Huffington Post. New Year's Day, 2014, marks the 20th anniversary of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). The Agreement created a common market for goods, services and investment capital with Canada and Mexico. And it opened the door through which...

www.epi.org

The politicians lied about NAFTA in their zeal to get it passed.

 

[newfie]

im just quoting the articles which align with what ive heard from economists.

you know what they say about economists opinions and buttholes?

 

[newfie]

Not sure exactly exactly that’s correct. I spent many hours at Union meetings in the 90s with Union official telling us Union members that NAFTA would be a disaster for working people. I believe
They were actually correct.

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Clinton Hits Labor on NAFTA Tactics : Policy: President blames 'raw muscle' of unions for his difficulties in getting free trade pact votes. He warns that race relations continue to deteriorate in cities.

In an unusually sharp critique of one of his party's most influential constituencies, President Clinton on Sunday blamed the "roughshod, muscle-bound tactics" of organized labor for the difficulty he faces in winning ratification of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

www.latimes.com

yes unions were very strongly against it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

The politicians lied about NAFTA in their zeal to get it passed.

I also believe many of them knew they were going to personally benefit.

 

[rickyb]

you know what they say about economists opinions and buttholes?

theyre not all garbage although economic schools are a bit of a joke in america.

 

[rickyb]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-25/bill-clinton-stopped-at-nothing-in-fight-for-nafta

NAFTA, Twenty Years After: A Disaster

The post originally appeared on The Huffington Post. New Year's Day, 2014, marks the 20th anniversary of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). The Agreement created a common market for goods, services and investment capital with Canada and Mexico. And it opened the door through which...

www.epi.org

great title haha im gonna read it

 

[newfie]

I think most people expected NAFTA to fail.

it didnt fail it did exactly what the globalist wanted it to do

 

[newfie]

theyre not all garbage although economic schools are a bit of a joke in america.

maybe its not a real science. take any economic subject you want and you can find an economist that disagrees with it.

 

[Thebrownblob]

The politicians lied about NAFTA in their zeal to get it passed.

Sean Obrian is a similar age as me. I believe things like NAFTA and deregulation are what formed his disagreements with the Democratic Party as a young man and now as a Teamster president. He’s made mention that he thinks they have screwed us more than help us, especially in the last 30 years.

 

[rickyb]

maybe its not a real science. take any economic subject you want and you can find an economist that disagrees with it.

i think youre right its not a science. think chomsky would agree with you

 

[Thebrownblob]

maybe its not a real science. take any economic subject you want and you can find an economist that disagrees with it.

Keynesian economics?
Also known as the magic money tree.

 

[oldngray]

Keynesian economics?
Also known as the magic money tree.

altar Democrats worship

 

[Thebrownblob]

altar Democrats worship

I wish my household could operate like that and succeeded.

 

[rickyb]

altar Democrats worship

that ended with neoliberalism i think.

 

[vantexan]

Not sure exactly exactly that’s correct. I spent many hours at Union meetings in the 90s with Union official telling us Union members that NAFTA would be a disaster for working people. I believe
They were actually correct.

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Clinton Hits Labor on NAFTA Tactics : Policy: President blames 'raw muscle' of unions for his difficulties in getting free trade pact votes. He warns that race relations continue to deteriorate in cities.

In an unusually sharp critique of one of his party's most influential constituencies, President Clinton on Sunday blamed the "roughshod, muscle-bound tactics" of organized labor for the difficulty he faces in winning ratification of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

www.latimes.com

No doubt. And Ross Perot made it the centerpiece of his '92 election bid. But a Democrat controlled Congress passed it. That sign in your pic said it was bad for workers on both sides of the border. I know for a fact, because I lived in McAllen, TX in '93, and later in Eagle Pass in 2002, that NAFTA was very good to the communities along the border. The McAllen area today is much, much more developed than in '93. Border trade was the main driver.

 

[vantexan]

The politicians lied about NAFTA in their zeal to get it passed.

Because businessmen with deep pockets were funding their campaigns.

 

[vantexan]

I think most people expected NAFTA to fail.

NAFTA definitely benefited Mexico and Canada more but the really big driver of our demise was the China trade. People like to scoff at all the useless junk coming out of China but just about everything we buy is made there now. Beyond a small percentage made in other countries.