If you could do it again and choose between UPS or Express, which would you choose?

Discussion in 'FedEx Discussions' started by l22, Jun 20, 2015.

  1. l22

    l22 Active Member

    For long-time Express employees: if you could start over again and had a choice between UPS or Express, which would you choose? Even if you had to be a handler at UPS for a few years before becoming a Package Car Driver or a handler at Express before becoming a courier, which company would you choose if at most, after 5 years, you would be able to be a courier/driver?
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2015
  2. l22

    l22 Active Member

    and why?
  3. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    I know you are asking fedexers, but why would this even be a serious question?

    I've never met any fedex or FedEx Ground driver that made the same money, had a good pension and 401k both, and really good health insurance for you and your family.

    Unless money does not matter to you, it's a no brainer......UPS.
  4. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Apparently nobody wants to work for either company anymore
  5. Route 66

    Route 66 Bent Member

    That's a fact. If I had it to do all over, I'd steer as far away from this entire sh1tty industry as humanly possible.
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  6. rod

    rod retired and happy

    get a government job --- pays about the same with a lot less stress
  7. Purplepackage

    Purplepackage Well-Known Member

    Are you talking express now or federal express from the early 80s

    You can ask the guys who started back in 82 federal express gave them a means to live a decent life and now they are all topped out and happy.

    Now express vs Ups now would be an entirely different story
  8. Code43

    Code43 Member

    As a former UPS driver now Express driver I can tell you that leaving UPS for Fedex was the biggest mistake I ever made 11 years ago. Not only for me but also for my family. No one told me in 2004 that it was going to take 50 years to top out at FedEx. Both jobs suck but FedEx is so much worse mentally. Especially on Friday's when I get my 560 dollar check. I'm ashamed of this company.
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  9. BigTex61

    BigTex61 Active Member

    Back when I was hired in the mid 80's it was a no brainer. FEDEX! Pay and benefits were pretty close, Fedex was going places, was told by hiring manager that they take good care of there employees, Fedex will always stay within a dollar or two of ups wages, great work atmosphere, he was even an ex ups guy as we're alot of the fedex drivers back then. Huge mistake long term. Of I had it to do over, Ups.
  10. dezguy

    dezguy Well-Known Member

    I've asked a couple UPS and Purolator guys over the years whether they would ever work for FedEx. The response is usually them laughing at me. Pretty sad because most of the guys who are about to retire at my station came to FedEx from UPS and Purolator.

    Those at the top must be so proud. They have gone from a company that could attract drivers from their competitors to being considered laughable as an employment option.
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  11. MrFedEx

    MrFedEx Engorged Member

    I'm with Route 66, as in I'd just stay away from this industry. Even if you work for top money at UPS, your body still takes a pounding, and it isn't easy work. Always being pushed to be more productive and being micro-managed by Tayloristic techniques gets very old.
  12. l22

    l22 Active Member

    Express now, but a question on the topped out guys who started in the 80s - do they make more per hour than it would be possible to make now as a courier now if you started in the 2000s and stayed until 2030?
  13. l22

    l22 Active Member

    In the 70s, 80s and 90s, was the hourly pay high enough to live comfortably during those decades if you only worked 35-40 hours a week? Or was the main benefit the abundance of hours that were available to couriers if they wanted them?
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  14. Purplepackage

    Purplepackage Well-Known Member

    When the company started you topped out in 2 years, it was then changes to 4 years. So imagine being 21 and getting hired in 82 by the time you were 23 you were making top rate
  15. FedEx GT

    FedEx GT Active Member

    I don't know much about express but I have to call bs on that. $560 a week after 11 years?? I have guys that have been with me for a year and a half that bring home way over that in a week. And that is from the "scab" ground model, and yes I did say bring home not gross
  16. Why so serious

    Why so serious Active Member

    My biggest complaint with Fedex is it represents the core of what's wrong with corporate America. Taking the wealth and not being fair to their own employees. Intentionally treating them as contractors so they can deny them the fair living they deserve and the company has the means to do it. The sad thing is Working class Americans frown on this and continue to use their service. I don't blame the FedEx drivers because they are out there like the rest of us trying to make a living in a jobless economy.
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  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Jobless economy? Unemployment is in the 5% range. There are jobs all over the place.
  18. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Ever heard of going postal?
  19. Why so serious

    Why so serious Active Member

    You must be watching MSNBC. The actual jobless rate is much higher. 5% represents those reportedly actually out there looking for work. Not those getting government assistant not looking for work, those working under the table, or those just fed up and quit looking for work. You missed the point of my initial statement anyway.

    MAKAVELI Well-Known Member

    Our health benefits take a big chunk of our pay each week. With no wage progression $560 a week take home sounds about right for an 11 year employee who is not getting much ot.