Is it stealing company time?

[BigBrownTown]

Is it stealing company time to take an issue to my union steward on the clock? New PT tried to tell my area he wouldn't have us seeing our Steward on the clock without his permission. Says he has an open door policy(which means when you ask him something you can expect an openly jerkish answer.) But he really sees no need for the union stuff. He says its more of a privelage than a necessity and that hes perfectly capable of managing without the help of a Union Steward.

 

[Brownslave688]

Is it stealing company time to take an issue to my union steward on the clock? New PT tried to tell my area he wouldn't have us seeing our Steward on the clock without his permission. Says he has an open door policy(which means when you ask him something you can expect an openly jerkish answer.) But he really sees no need for the union stuff. He says its more of a privelage than a necessity and that hes perfectly capable of managing without the help of a Union Steward.

More than likely yes. What would you need to leave your area to address a steward about in the middle of a shift?

 

[Bubblehead]

Is it stealing company time to take an issue to my union steward on the clock? New PT tried to tell my area he wouldn't have us seeing our Steward on the clock without his permission. Says he has an open door policy(which means when you ask him something you can expect an openly jerkish answer.) But he really sees no need for the union stuff. He says its more of a privelage than a necessity and that hes perfectly capable of managing without the help of a Union Steward.

What's the issue?

 

[Bubblehead]

More than likely yes. What would you need to leave your area to address a steward about in the middle of a shift?

Harassment, workplace violence, safety concern, etc???
Not sure I would leave my area, but I might stop working until this "open door manager", my steward, and myself had a conversation though.

 

[Brownslave688]

Harassment, workplace violence, safety concern, etc???
Not sure I would leave my area, but I might stop working until this "open door manager", my steward, and myself had a conversation though.

Safety concern simply quit working until it's addressed. I'm different but harassment to me wouldn't be something to ask immediatly for a steward. See them after the shift.


Workplace violence call the cops.

 

[BigBrownTown]

No issue, yet. But he was pretty firm in that he didn't want us having a lot of contact with our steward.

 

[BigBrownTown]

Thi was simply his "public service announcement." as our new sup. ...great way to start off.

 

[Bubblehead]

No issue, yet. But he was pretty firm in that he didn't want us having a lot of contact with our steward.

I hope they transfer this guy to my building.
I would like to meet him.

 

[bbsam]

No issue, yet. But he was pretty firm in that he didn't want us having a lot of contact with our steward.

Since there is no issue, why not bring it up to your steward off the clock just to get the local's stance on this?

 

[BigBrownTown]

I think if he keeps that kind of attitude hes on a fast track to a hearing for obstructing union process.

 

[BigBrownTown]

Since there is no issue, why not bring it up to your steward off the clock just to get the local's stance on this?

I will be come Monday. Until then im off.

 

[542thruNthru]

Pretty much the rule is, work as directed and file later.

The guy sounds like he wants to play hard ball. Learn the rules and beat him at his own game. Most pt supes don't know anything about the contract. They think they have power and are the boss. Be smarter than him and take your time breaking him down.

To be honest I usually don't wanna see the shop steward till after the fact. It gives me time to think about every little detail and file as many grievances that pertain to them.

 

[Coldfeer234]

Just keep working and FILE FILE FILE.

 

[BigBrownTown]

Pretty much the rule is, work as directed and file later.

The guy sounds like he wants to play hard ball. Learn the rules and beat him at his own game. Most pt supes don't know anything about the contract. They think they have power and are the boss. Be smarter than him and take your time breaking him down.

To be honest I usually don't wanna see the shop steward till after the fact. It gives me time to think about every little detail and file as many grievances that pertain to them.

Probably the best answer here.

 

[Dr.Brownz]

Pretty much the rule is, work as directed and file later.

The guy sounds like he wants to play hard ball. Learn the rules and beat him at his own game. Most pt supes don't know anything about the contract. They think they have power and are the boss. Be smarter than him and take your time breaking him down.

To be honest I usually don't wanna see the shop steward till after the fact. It gives me time to think about every little detail and file as many grievances that pertain to them.

Read this post 100 times and let the wisdom sink in

Beat them at their own game

 

[rod]

I think he just wants to be your friend. New sups are like that.

 

[BigBrownTown]

I think he just wants to be your friend. New sups are like that.

Oh yeeah...I got a feeling we're gonna be best buddies. My new favorite PT Sup.

 

[10 point]

Safety concern simply quit working until it's addressed. I'm different but harassment to me wouldn't be something to ask immediatly for a steward. See them after the shift.


Workplace violence call the cops.

Harassment can warrant a 911 call at times.

 

[10 point]

No issue, yet. But he was pretty firm in that he didn't want us having a lot of contact with our steward.

He's a wussy.
Scared of stewards.
Get him a new box of tissues.

 

[Tiredbrown]

Best to wait until after your shift to talk with a steward. But if you have an issue with your Sup that may involve any form of discipline during your shift you have the right and responsibility to demand your steward be present. Also don't sweat some pt sup's ego trip they really have almost no power any way all they can do is go cry to their full time boss.