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Thebrownblob

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leading up to israel's attack, they lied to the media about what was said on phone calls.
Nobody lied about anything. Everyone knew Israel was going to attack at some point shortly what are you even talking about?

Glenn Greenwald was guessing, and he guessed incorrectly about the current situation. He’s not wrong, however that the US definitely supports Israel and always has no matter who has been an office. So saying we’re not involved in anyway it’s probably not even possible because we have some involvement but currently we are rejecting Israel’s attempt to get us into the war directly. Exactly as Trump told us he would do as well as he. He’s been telling Iran to stop enriching uranium because Israel was going to attack and he could not stop them. Somehow you feel Iran has no cupability if they promised they wouldn’t do it and still did which means they lied.
 

rickyb

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Everyone in the world, except you apparently understands that Iran is definitely enriching uranium to make weapon. The only argument is should they be allowed to?

This is the last resort as far as the people who don’t feel they should be allowed to.
either talk it out and make it law for everyone to not make nukes

if they did make nukes which theyre certainly trying to do now after israel attacked it again, im sure it would be illegal just like the israeli nukes are illegal.
 

Thebrownblob

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either talk it out and make it law for everyone to not make nukes

if they did make nukes which theyre certainly trying to do now after israel attacked it again, im sure it would be illegal just like the israeli nukes are illegal.
Following your logic, what happens when someone breaks the law?

Sanctions? Lol they don’t work.

A nice phone call? Lol that doesn’t work.

Dinner and a movie? That doesn’t work either.


Nope, eventually bomb start flying. That’s it. That’s the only thing we have. @rickyb
 

rickyb

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Nobody lied about anything. Everyone knew Israel was going to attack at some point shortly what are you even talking about?

Glenn Greenwald was guessing, and he guessed incorrectly about the current situation. He’s not wrong, however that the US definitely supports Israel and always has no matter who has been an office. So saying we’re not involved in anyway it’s probably not even possible because we have some involvement but currently we are rejecting Israel’s attempt to get us into the war directly. Exactly as Trump told us he would do as well as he. He’s been telling Iran to stop enriching uranium because Israel was going to attack and he could not stop them.
israel is totally dependent on america for war. they cant sustain a long conflict.
 

rickyb

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Following your logic, what happens when someone breaks the law?

Sanctions? Lol they don’t work.

A nice phone call? Lol that doesn’t work.

Dinner and a movie? That doesn’t work either.


Nope, eventually bomb start flying. That’s it. That’s the only thing we have. @rickyb
we werent at the war stage yet. and its illegal just like iraq was, just like ukraine was.

trump intentionally sabotaged the negotiations with iran by following the hawks proposals.
 

Thebrownblob

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we werent at the war stage yet. and its illegal just like iraq was, just like ukraine was.

trump intentionally sabotaged the negotiations with iran by following the hawks proposals.
You can’t be serious? Trump is the only one that tried to have these negotiations and he’s not the one bombing them.

And I don’t know how you know what stage you’re at because according to most of the intelligence, Iran was very close to having a bomb if not already having one.
 

rickyb

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Nobody lied about anything. Everyone knew Israel was going to attack at some point shortly what are you even talking about?

Glenn Greenwald was guessing, and he guessed incorrectly about the current situation. He’s not wrong, however that the US definitely supports Israel and always has no matter who has been an office. So saying we’re not involved in anyway it’s probably not even possible because we have some involvement but currently we are rejecting Israel’s attempt to get us into the war directly. Exactly as Trump told us he would do as well as he. He’s been telling Iran to stop enriching uranium because Israel was going to attack and he could not stop them. Somehow you feel Iran has no cupability if they promised they wouldn’t do it and still did which means they lied.
i think everyone i listened to said hte negotiations were in bad faith including what trump told the media was discussed on phone calls to catch iran off guard.
 

Thebrownblob

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i think everyone i listened to said hte negotiations were in bad faith including what trump told the media was discussed on phone calls to catch iran off guard.
No, I don’t think that’s what you really heard. I think you heard that in negotiations for an ultimatum which may seem like bad faith, but really it was just Trump warning. Iran that this was coming and he couldn’t stop it.

It’s almost insane that anyone is upset that Trump tried to do anything when no one else has.
 

rickyb

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You can’t be serious? Trump is the only one that tried to have these negotiations and he’s not the one bombing them.

And I don’t know how you know what stage you’re at because according to most of the intelligence, Iran was very close to having a bomb if not already having one.
thats what everyone i listened to said.

glenn greenwald, john mearsheimer, geopolitical economy report, there was another guy with mearsheimer.
 

Thebrownblob

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ill rewatch him right now im sure he said that just like everyone else.
You still haven’t told me what happens when international law is broken how you can stop it?


I already know the answer and I think you do too. We just don’t like it. But sometimes we have to live in the real world.
 

rickyb

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You still haven’t told me what happens when international law is broken how you can stop it?


I already know the answer and I think you do too. We just don’t like it. But sometimes we have to live in the real world.
i think i did but ill tell you again later

"it is utterly inconcievable, utterly inconcievable, that israel would have struck iran without getting the greenlight from the trump admin for so many reasons....trump wouldve had a million ways to punish (israel)....the israels need and are already relying upon the US military....the idea that they wouldve done this without trumps green light seems immediately and intuitively absurd" - glenn greewald

 

rickyb

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We'll probably send in some B-2s and/or B-52s with 30,000 pound Massive Ordinance Penetrators after Israel has softened things up.
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remember these are the same neo cons who said the other wars would be good and they turned out into a disaster

8 trillion wasted in wars recently.
 
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