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[vantexan]

the middle eastern states are weak (in the case of israel) or weaker (everyone else)

we dont know how many missiles iran has left. more iranian missiles are getting through israelis iron dome.

hedges says it wouldnt suprise him / probably that russia would help iran. but it takes time to replenish weapons.

Russia likely won't be sparing Iran any missiles or much.of anything else. They have their own little war to deal with and Russia's industrial capacity is limited.

 

[rickyb]

Russia likely won't be sparing Iran any missiles or much.of anything else. They have their own little war to deal with and Russia's industrial capacity is limited.

Sounds like 50%

 

[vantexan]

Sounds like 50%

50%?

 

[rickyb]

the population of the middle east is enraged at the genocide in gaza but their govts do nothing. They are all police states. However if israel kicks the palestinians off their land, you may see protests

The occupation of iraq lasted 20 years. Whos to say iran wont be be the same

Hundreds of thousands are protesting israel in tehran. You are not being greeted as liberators. They call you little devil and big devil

A war with iran is probably overreach for israel in the long term. Short term they can do damage

Isis was not beaten through aerial assaults

 

[vantexan]

the population of the middle east is enraged at the genocide in gaza but their govts do nothing. They are all police states. However if israel kicks the palestinians off their land, you may see protests

The occupation of iraq lasted 20 years. Whos to say iran wont be be the same

Hundreds of thousands are protesting israel in tehran. You are not being greeted as liberators. They call you little devil and big devil

We haven't occupied Iran and we were out of Iraq after less than 9 years.

 

[rickyb]

We haven't occupied Iran and we were out of Iraq after less than 9 years.

20 years*

You left under biden.

 

[vantexan]

20 years*

You left under biden.

And you're thinking of Afghanistan. We left Iraq in 2011.

 

[rickyb]

And you're thinking of Afghanistan. We left Iraq in 2011.

Well go with afghanistan. 20 year occupation. Lost

 

[rickyb]

60 to 70% of americans do not want war with iran.

That will change if the us attacks and iran defends itself

 

[vantexan]

CNN poll showed 79% don't want Iran to have a nuke. So pretty sure if we take out Iran's nuclear facilities most will be happy.

 

[tourists24]

60 to 70% of americans do not want war with iran.

That will change if the us attacks and iran defends itself

I'd say it's much higher of Americans that don't WANT war with Iran. But also a higher percentage wise would also say Iran cannot get nuclear weapons also

 

[rickyb]

CNN poll showed 79% don't want Iran to have a nuke. So pretty sure if we take out Iran's nuclear facilities most will be happy.

It means they want diplomacy l9l

 

[rickyb]

I'd say it's much higher of Americans that don't WANT war with Iran. But also a higher percentage wise would also say Iran cannot get nuclear weapons also

I heard the 60 to 70 number from 2 sources now. It will change though.

 

[tourists24]

It means they want diplomacy l9l

and if diplomacy doesn't work then it may take more than that. Trump has delayed deciding because he is hoping for a diplomatic solution first, but only one that includes no nukes for Iran

 

[rickyb]

https://x.com/RalphNader/status/1936076249295683939

 

[vantexan]

It means they want diplomacy l9l

Diplomacy isn't working.

 

[rickyb]

and if diplomacy doesn't work then it may take more than that

Israel stopped the phony diplomacy by violating intl law with their attack last week.

 

[vantexan]

View attachment 523483

https://x.com/RalphNader/status/1936076249295683939

Nader is lying again.

 

[rickyb]

Diplomacy isn't working.

I heard there wont be any more diplomacy until usa reigns israel in

 

[vantexan]

I heard there wont be any more diplomacy until usa reigns israel in

You heard wrong.