Israel

[Thebrownblob]

I mean his recent position matched their old position

I don’t think that’s actually true. I think he’s learned quite a bit of lessons in this regard. Although I don’t think it was going to matter to Iran.

 

[oldngray]

100% they never intended to negotiate. I’m sure Israel knew that.
One thing is Israel has is the best Intel in the world

Iran has broken every past agreement

 

[rickyb]

Have you considered the size of these countries? Iran and Saudi Arabia are both substantially larger than Alaska. Egypt is as big as Texas and New Mexico combined. A couple nukes in Israel would certainly destroy Israel. Might do in southern Lebanon and parts of Syria and Jordan. But not the whole area. And likely Iran won't have the capability to produce the monster nukes that we or the Russians have.

Israel may indeed be destroyed

 

[vantexan]

I have. The idea that nuclear warfare would not cripple. An entire region is kind of laughable.

It would make the price of oil go through the roof. Did Hiroshima and Nagasaki cripple Japan? We killed more people there with fire bombing.

 

[UnionStrong]

100% they never intended to negotiate. I’m sure Israel knew that.
One thing is Israel has is the best Intel in the world

Everyone knew they were never going stop trying to get a nuke. They made them look like the savages and liars that they are, and decided to end them.

 

[rickyb]

It would make the price of oil go through the roof. Did Hiroshima and Nagasaki cripple Japan? We killed more people there with fire bombing.

I gassed up yesterday

 

[Thebrownblob]

It would make the price of oil go through the roof. Did Hiroshima and Nagasaki cripple Japan? We killed more people there with fire bombing.

It certainly did cripple them for quite some time, and the health implications of a nuclear bomb moving forward through the years are really unmeasurable. The point here is launching a nuclear weapon against anyone is really a zero sum game. You don’t win anything. I think that’s why we’ve never seen it done. As crazy as we’d like to make some of these people out to be they’re not THAT crazy.

 

[vantexan]

I gassed up yesterday

Taco Bell?

 

[Thebrownblob]

I gassed up yesterday

Well, you’re safe. No need to worry about nuclear bombs lol.

 

[oldngray]

It certainly did cripple them for quite some time, and the health implications of a nuclear bomb moving forward through the years are really unmeasurable. The point here is launching a nuclear weapon against anyone is really a zero sum game. You don’t win anything.

Israel has had nukes for a long time but never used them. No way Iran would show that restraint.

 

[UnionStrong]

It certainly did cripple them for quite some time, and the health implications of a nuclear bomb moving forward through the years are really unmeasurable. The point here is launching a nuclear weapon against anyone is really a zero sum game. You don’t win anything.

They were small atomic weapons too. The initial death toll was less than those that died in the fire storms from conventional fire bombing. The deaths over the coming months and years from radiation poisoning made it much worse

 

[Thebrownblob]

Israel has had nukes for a long time but never used them. No way Iran would show that restraint.

Then Iran, and Israel would both be gone, I think even Iran understands that.

 

[Thebrownblob]

They were small atomic weapons too. The initial death toll was less than those that died in the fire storms from conventional fire bombing. The deaths over the coming months and years from radiation poisoning made it much worse

Yep

 

[vantexan]

It certainly did cripple them for quite some time, and the health implications of a nuclear bomb moving forward through the years are really unmeasurable. The point here is launching a nuclear weapon against anyone is really a zero sum game. You don’t win anything.

I agree with you there. If you're dealing with rational people. Decades of chanting "Death to Israel", Iranian president saying awhile back that soon they'd have the means to destroy Israel, and the constant proxy attacks not only on Israel but Jews worldwide means Israel has to take it all extremely seriously.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I agree with you there. If you're dealing with rational people. Decades of chanting "Death to Israel", Iranian president saying awhile back that soon they'd have the means to destroy Israel, and the constant proxy attacks not only on Israel but Jews worldwide means Israel has to take it all extremely seriously.

Listen, I understand that and I don’t necessarily disagree with you but many of those same concerns we had with Pakistan in the 70s and 80s. They haven’t used them. I don’t necessarily think they’re completely sane either. But apparently it was enough for them just to get them and never use them. Just a few months ago when war was about to break out everyone thought they would and they still didn’t. Chanting and acting ondeath to Israel it is a little different when you know it means you’re a certain death. I would see a scenario where they would plant a dirty bomb as being more likely that way they could claim ignorance.

 

[vantexan]

Listen, I understand that and I don’t necessarily disagree with you but many of those same concerns we had with Pakistan in the 70s and 80s. They haven’t used them. I don’t necessarily think they’re completely sane either. But apparently it was enough for them just to get them and never use them. Just a few months ago when war was about to break out everyone thought they would and they still didn’t. Chanting and acting ondeath to Israel it is a little different when you know it means you’re a certain death. I would see a scenario where they would plant a dirty bomb as being more likely that way they could claim ignorance.

Pakistan is a different animal. They've played ball to some extent with the U.S. although they're two faced. Pakistan got nukes because India did and the two have fought several wars. Not to mention that Pakistan is a long way from Israel. And, considering the extent that Iran has supported terrorism against Israel and Jews, if a dirty bomb were to be set off that likely would trigger a nuclear attack from Israel anyways.

 

[rickyb]

Israel has had nukes for a long time but never used them. No way Iran would show that restraint.

Why not

Nk has nukes

 

[rickyb]

Wilkerson says intensity and duration of attacks will increase by iran

 

[newfie]

I gassed up yesterday

you have a car?

 

[newfie]

Listen, I understand that and I don’t necessarily disagree with you but many of those same concerns we had with Pakistan in the 70s and 80s. They haven’t used them. I don’t necessarily think they’re completely sane either. But apparently it was enough for them just to get them and never use them. Just a few months ago when war was about to break out everyone thought they would and they still didn’t. Chanting and acting ondeath to Israel it is a little different when you know it means you’re a certain death. I would see a scenario where they would plant a dirty bomb as being more likely that way they could claim ignorance.

its tough trying to figure out which one of those idiots is the craziest . I think the real plan has always been to cut Irans balls off since october 6th. Hamas done, houties done done, Hesbollah triple done. So like a good retro game its now time to take out the big boss.