J6 Hearing

Thebrownblob

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The bottom line no one gives a :censored2: about January 6, Was there a crimes committed?
Sure. Was it insurrection? Lol not even close. We are witnessing political pageantry. The real insurrection is happening right now. They are insurrecting our economy, our way of life, while they do as they please. We have an incompetent administration in over their head. Joe Biden IS president, and we are all suffering.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Jon Stewart's Daily Show was entertainment too. But Tucker has national influence now while Stewart has little.
Stewart left as a purely personal decision. You act as though Tucker vanquished him and sent him fleeing. And if you watched the video, Stewart made exactly the point that his was comedy entertainment. His line, “My show follows puppets making prank phone calls!” That says it all. Does Tucker know he’s entertainment? Do his fans?

And I don’t think Tucker has nearly the influence you think he does.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
The bottom line no one gives a :censored2: about January 6, Was there a crimes committed?
Sure. Was it insurrection? Lol not even close. We are witnessing political pageantry. The real insurrection is happening right now. They are insurrecting our economy, our way of life, while they do as they please. We have an incompetent administration in over their head. Joe Biden IS president, and we are all suffering.
If people don’t care, why do republicans fear it so much? I’m sure republicans hope that people don’t care and I’m sure that clips of it will be made into campaign ads.
 

Thebrownblob

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If people don’t care, why do republicans fear it so much? I’m sure republicans hope that people don’t care and I’m sure that clips of it will be made into campaign ads.
I don’t know anyone who cares. Do you watch political campaign ads? Stupidest waste of money I’ve ever seen. Que the scary music and bad pictures of someone while an ominous voice says made up things about them. I don’t know any real people who care about January 6 or change their mind about anything and anyway either side. Maybe we should focus on what’s happening right now which is the devastation of the middle-class.
 

bbsam

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Staff member
I don’t know anyone who cares. Do you watch political campaign ads? Stupidest waste of money I’ve ever seen. Que the scary music and bad pictures of someone while an ominous voice says made up things about them. I don’t know any real people who care about January 6 or change their mind about anything and anyway either side. Maybe we should focus on what’s happening right now which is the devastation of the middle-class.
If all you want to do is blame politicians for the devastation of the middle class, I’d say that’s the thing people should start ignoring. If people really want to get at the root of that devastation they should look to the corporations that have bought and paid for those politicians.

But you can’t do that, can you? That throws up you “socialist!” and “leftist” red flags. It’s true though. Stock markets show it. Balance sheets show it. The existence of PACs scream it all day long. Campaign finance laws encourage it. And deep inside, I bet your own intuition tells you that it’s true.
 

Thebrownblob

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If all you want to do is blame politicians for the devastation of the middle class, I’d say that’s the thing people should start ignoring. If people really want to get at the root of that devastation they should look to the corporations that have bought and paid for those politicians.

But you can’t do that, can you? That throws up you “socialist!” and “leftist” red flags. It’s true though. Stock markets show it. Balance sheets show it. The existence of PACs scream it all day long. Campaign finance laws encourage it. And deep inside, I bet your own intuition tells you that it’s true.
Lol Government and corporations in bed together. You bet. You do realize not just corporations have PACs? I’m on the board of a rather large one. I hate it, but it’s reality, It’s how Washington and local politics now work.
Your misunderstanding of who I am and what I believe is understandable. These two sides are playing games that hurt us if you don’t understand that you can continue to pick a side. They’re both losers.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Stewart left as a purely personal decision. You act as though Tucker vanquished him and sent him fleeing. And if you watched the video, Stewart made exactly the point that his was comedy entertainment. His line, “My show follows puppets making prank phone calls!” That says it all. Does Tucker know he’s entertainment? Do his fans?

And I don’t think Tucker has nearly the influence you think he does.
His show not only knocked off Hannity's as the #1 show on cable but is the main reason FOX is now watched by more Democrats in the 18-49 category than CNN or MSNBC. You say entertainment, ok, it's not the hard news at 6 p.m. It's commentary. And he has influence because he routinely gives opinions that has liberal heads exploding the next day. And they've tried to get him off the air.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
If all you want to do is blame politicians for the devastation of the middle class, I’d say that’s the thing people should start ignoring. If people really want to get at the root of that devastation they should look to the corporations that have bought and paid for those politicians.

But you can’t do that, can you? That throws up you “socialist!” and “leftist” red flags. It’s true though. Stock markets show it. Balance sheets show it. The existence of PACs scream it all day long. Campaign finance laws encourage it. And deep inside, I bet your own intuition tells you that it’s true.
Are you not seeing the power of the politicians? Do politicians go hat in hand to corporations or do corporations go via their lobbyists to politicians? The Left likes to rant about oil companies. Did the oil companies get their way when Biden took office? But they're making record profits you cry! The big ones are. Many of the small ones got shut out when Biden ended drilling on Federal land. The Federal administration has the power through policies to greatly affect our lives and it's happening right now in the wrong way.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
If people don’t care, why do republicans fear it so much?
Which ones fear it?

The ones who wanted to be on the committee but Nancy pelosi wouldn't let them because she didn't want any opposing views on her show trial sham?

They were so afraid they wanted to take part? That's your silly narrative? Really?
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
Are you suggesting that all those thousands of J6 rioters are now rotting in a dungeon somewhere?
Appeal to extreme strawman fallacy. No, some have had their due process rights eliminated, and have been treated worse than any prisoner should, especially ones who haven't even been convicted yet. That should cause everyone concern.

That all the BLM rioters were sent home and awarded medals of honor?
More appeal to extreme.

That these seven folks, obviously looking to hang the Vice President, were likewise given preferential treatment?
If you believe anyone actually intended to drag Mike Pence into the street and hang him then and there, I have some beach front property in Missouri for sale. These seven individuals (colbert's crew I assume you are referring to) were explicitly told to leave, and refused to. The jan 6th folks were invited in. Colbert's crew will be charged, but won't be treated the same way by the media so people like you won't be lead to erroneously believe false things about them. They probably won't be held without bail for a year for staying in a place where they were told to leave, vs the Jan 6th people who were invited in who have been held in violation of their due process rights.

And please, go back and watch the raw footage of J6. If you don’t see “real crimes”, you’re a goofball. I’ll even allow you to say that they were “invited”. But who accepts an invitation somewhere and shows up acting like that? J6 was real criminal activity.

You're conflating what happened outside with what happened inside. Inside you had people mostly milling around acting like tourists, one person giving a speech and a few people acting like jackasses picking up stuff they shouldn't have and going into offices they shouldn't have.

Outside, where most of the actual violence took place, I saw real crimes, of capitol police instigating violence unprovoked, shooting flash bang grenades at the crowd, killing one protester. Between that, the tear gas, and beatings started by the police, I saw people trying to defend themselves and get away.

With Ashli Babbit I saw someone get shot by a capitol police officer, which directly caused her death, for which he didn't even get charged. I'm still amazed by the sheer hypocrisy and how blind people are to it.

Even Google wants to assure us that January 6th was much, much worse than the weather underground bombing of the Capitol.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
I don’t doubt it one bit. People are strange. Look back at how elected republicans were talking right after J6. They had and have no true belief in the big lie but that won’t keep them from riding Trump fanaticism as far as it will take them.

Elected establishment Republicans. Trump even continues to endorse people who actively speak out against him. I've said it before, I don't care that Trump was robbed, I care that the election was clearly tampered with, from multiple angles, and so many people don't care because it was stolen from Trump. When winning at all costs is the first commandment in the world of politics, the country is done.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
The bottom line no one gives a :censored2: about January 6, Was there a crimes committed?
Sure. Was it insurrection? Lol not even close. We are witnessing political pageantry. The real insurrection is happening right now. They are insurrecting our economy, our way of life, while they do as they please. We have an incompetent administration in over their head. Joe Biden IS president, and we are all suffering.

All the murders were committed by the police, trespassers were invited in, and police started the riot by shooting flash bangs and tear gas at peaceful protesters. Yes, there were crimes committed, and none of the perpetrators are being held accountable and the victims are being held as political prisoners and smeared as terrorists. This is reality in DC, folks.
 

Gotta Go

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PT Car Washer

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Appeal to extreme strawman fallacy. No, some have had their due process rights eliminated, and have been treated worse than any prisoner should, especially ones who haven't even been convicted yet. That should cause everyone concern.


More appeal to extreme.


If you believe anyone actually intended to drag Mike Pence into the street and hang him then and there, I have some beach front property in Missouri for sale. These seven individuals (colbert's crew I assume you are referring to) were explicitly told to leave, and refused to. The jan 6th folks were invited in. Colbert's crew will be charged, but won't be treated the same way by the media so people like you won't be lead to erroneously believe false things about them. They probably won't be held without bail for a year for staying in a place where they were told to leave, vs the Jan 6th people who were invited in who have been held in violation of their due process rights.



You're conflating what happened outside with what happened inside. Inside you had people mostly milling around acting like tourists, one person giving a speech and a few people acting like jackasses picking up stuff they shouldn't have and going into offices they shouldn't have.

Outside, where most of the actual violence took place, I saw real crimes, of capitol police instigating violence unprovoked, shooting flash bang grenades at the crowd, killing one protester. Between that, the tear gas, and beatings started by the police, I saw people trying to defend themselves and get away.

With Ashli Babbit I saw someone get shot by a capitol police officer, which directly caused her death, for which he didn't even get charged. I'm still amazed by the sheer hypocrisy and how blind people are to it.

Even Google wants to assure us that January 6th was much, much worse than the weather underground bombing of the Capitol.
What Bizarro world do you live in.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
If all you want to do is blame politicians for the devastation of the middle class, I’d say that’s the thing people should start ignoring. If people really want to get at the root of that devastation they should look to the corporations that have bought and paid for those politicians.

But you can’t do that, can you? That throws up you “socialist!” and “leftist” red flags. It’s true though. Stock markets show it. Balance sheets show it. The existence of PACs scream it all day long. Campaign finance laws encourage it. And deep inside, I bet your own intuition tells you that it’s true.


I have no problem pointing out that corporations buying politicians is a problem. It takes two to tango, though. I think Trump supporters are way more sensitive to special interests than other people, one of the biggest draws to Trump was the fact that he wasn't taking money from special interests.

It's quite amusing that people can complain about corporations buying politicians and not see the irony of supporting their bought and paid for politicians while demonizing Trump.
 

Thebrownblob

Well-Known Member
What Bizarro world do you live in.
Really I think it’s a pretty accurate analysis. Police did shoot and kill an unarmed woman. They did indeed throw flash bang after they people were allowed in, and people are being held as political prisoners unconstitutionally because they’re not Afforded the right to a speedy trial. And I’m saying this as someone who thinks most of those people were fools for going.
 
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