So same as it's always been?If I feel like a guy tomorrow, I can enter the men's restroom at Target. Maybe I'll just observe the urinal visitors .....
sheet happens!!I go to Target to shop, not to use the sheeter....
Maybe they should just build a third bathroom in new businesses..... A LGBTQ bathroom. That way everyone is happy. Problem solved.
The world is my urinal.how about "NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS"
it's getting too ridiculous
Maybe, but only if these separate bathrooms are equal... that'll fix this problem lol.Maybe they should just build a third bathroom in new businesses..... A LGBTQ bathroom. That way everyone is happy. Problem solved.
How bout one genderless bathroom. The prudes can get diapers.how about "NO PUBLIC RESTROOMS"
it's getting too ridiculous
You are correct Newfie.... the whole thing started when Charlotte changed their ordinance/law. The state responded. Charlotte expanded protection of groups not to be discriminated against (ie... trans/ gender identity). In and of itself NC would not have reacted. The problem is that they removed the exemption that is given to use of bathrooms, showers, and locker rooms that was already law. This changed the entire meaning of the legislation. Now no business, private or public, could designate single sex facilities anywhere. Not to mention their is no legal test defining what is transgender. The state responded with HB2.what I got out of it was that trump asking why NC even messed with the laws and created this controversy. This issue probably has a reasonable explanation or solution but its become too political now.
That appears to be the end game here Drive. If that is what you really want, then you would be correct in opposing HB2... Diapers optionalHow bout one genderless bathroom. The prudes can get diapers.
Seems to me if the issue was really about bathrooms, HB2 would have been worded quite differently.That appears to be the end game here Drive. If that is what you really want, then you would be correct in opposing HB2... Diapers optional
what wording are you talking about?Seems to me if the issue was really about bathrooms, HB2 would have been worded quite differently.
the issue is absolutely about bathrooms. The whole thing started because Charlotte removed the exemption of protected classes from those specific places. It wasnt because transgender was added to the protected classes. Have you read HB2? It actually has a lot of leeway as to what private businesses can do. Less so for public places, but even then, reasonable accomodations are allowedSeems to me if the issue was really about bathrooms, HB2 would have been worded quite differently.
Local governments aren't allowed to set their own minimum wage laws under HB2. They also can't pass local laws expanding employment or public accommodation or anti discrimination laws. Under this law, big government in the capital decides everything.the issue is absolutely about bathrooms. The whole thing started because Charlotte removed the exemption of protected classes from those specific places. It wasnt because transgender was added to the protected classes. Have you read HB2? It actually has a lot of leeway as to what private businesses can do. Less so for public places, but even then, reasonable accomodations are allowed
Im talking specifically about the bathroom bill part, which is what all this crap is over anyway. Had Charlotte not changed the exemption, we would not have this controversey now. Here is the Charlotte change.... not Section 3.... Sec 12-58 and 12-59. This is why HB2 came aboutLocal governments aren't allowed to set their own minimum wage laws under HB2. They also can't pass local laws expanding employment or public accommodation or anti discrimination laws. Under this law, big government in the capital decides everything.
It's so funny to me. These anti big government republicans are so worried about the federal government. And here they are legislating from the capital, saying they know how what's best for cities hundreds of miles away, taking away their power to govern themselves. It's political hypocrisy at its worst.
Seems you're trying to deflect away from HB2 by talking about the reasons they told people they were passing it, and not about what they actually passed int this bill.Im talking specifically about the bathroom bill part, which is what all this crap is over anyway. Had Charlotte not changed the exemption, we would not have this controversey now. Here is the Charlotte change.... not Section 3.... Sec 12-58 and 12-59. This is why HB2 came about
http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/CityClerk/Documents/NDOrdinance.pdf
Actually I was never talking about HB2 itself... only why it came about in the first place. But if you wish... I have no problem discussing the LGBT parts of it since its what all the hubbub is about anyway. Anything else can be a side bar... what is your issue with the bathroom/shower part?Seems you're trying to deflect away from HB2 by talking about the reasons they told people they were passing it, and not about what they actually passed int this bill.
I don't have any issues in the bathroom.Actually I was never talking about HB2 itself... only why it came about in the first place. But if you wish... I have no problem discussing the LGBT parts of it since its what all the hubbub is about anyway. Anything else can be a side bar... what is your issue with the bathroom/shower part?