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rickyb

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Have you figured out how to make the biggest polluters, China and India, go green? Have you figured out how places with large populations like the U.S. Northeast and Germany, where the sun doesn't shine much of the year and aren't windy, are supposed to exist on wind and solar power? Have you figured out how we run things on solar when it is dark half of the day and we don't have but a fraction of the battery storage needed to run things in the dark and there's not enough lithium in the world to power the U.S. let alone the rest of the planet? What exactly would you have us do, kill everyone down to a fraction of the population to "save" the world? The future for billions of people still includes fossil fuels. We can use green tech to generate power but it alone won't cut it. It will take some new tech discovery to get off fossil fuels but until then trying to completely force us off it will end in disaster.
the tech is already there but we have entrenched capitalists that will not give up their control so easily.

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btw this system will lead to the death of our species

i would say public transportation, consumer goods has to be fixable and upgradable, sustainable diets, and ending the war machines world wide including nukes would be a good start.
 

vantexan

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the tech is already there but we have entrenched capitalists that will not give up their control so easily.

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btw this system will lead to the death of our species

i would say public transportation, consumer goods has to be fixable and upgradable, sustainable diets, and ending the war machines world wide including nukes would be a good start.
But in terms of total output China and India lead the pack by far. The top 50 most polluted cities in the world are almost completely from those two countries. And you still haven't explained how wind and solar are going to power everything and where is the battery storage coming from?
 

rickyb

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But in terms of total output China and India lead the pack by far. The top 50 most polluted cities in the world are almost completely from those two countries. And you still haven't explained how wind and solar are going to power everything and where is the battery storage coming from?
we burn too much energy anyways because our economic system is unsustainable and inefficient, so we need to practice conservation instead just generation which is what your referring to.

yes and in terms of pollution per person USA and canada are worse even though we are richer
 

qdg2

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i dont think the economists i listen to go to the WEF
Why would communists go to an "economic" forum? They just make stuff up and kill people to make it happen.....often leading to a more destructive disaster.....to wit: Russia, China, India, Cuba, Venezuela......on and on.
 
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vantexan

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we burn too much energy anyways because our economic system is unsustainable and inefficient, so we need to practice conservation instead just generation which is what your referring to.

yes and in terms of pollution per person USA and canada are worse even though we are richer
You can practice conservation all you want. There isn't enough lithium and other metals needed to provide battery storage. So the civilization you claim you care about will collapse anyways if people like you have your way. By the way just heard on the radio that Canada is taking away access to Facebook and Instagram for Canadians. Interesting "free" society y'all have going there.
 

vantexan

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Meta will block news access on those platforms due to the new Canadian law that requires tech companies to pay media outlets for news content.
Heard it on a news segment. That makes sense. They did say that California is considering a similar law to Canada's.
 

rickyb

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Please prove this.......exactly. Really?
you can look up sixth mass extinction, or what happens if enough nukes go off, or what happens if we do nothing about global warming

see the fact that you've never head of this stuff before should be a major sign that you are living in the matrix
 

rickyb

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You can practice conservation all you want. There isn't enough lithium and other metals needed to provide battery storage. So the civilization you claim you care about will collapse anyways if people like you have your way. By the way just heard on the radio that Canada is taking away access to Facebook and Instagram for Canadians. Interesting "free" society y'all have going there.
look up ralph nader conservation, energy

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rickyb

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Why would communists go to an "economic" forum? They just make stuff up and kill people to make it happen.....often leading to a more destructive disaster.....to wit: Russia, China, India, Cuba, Venezuela......on and on.
capitalists kill alot of people too

capitalism will lead to the death of the species
 
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