Mr. Smith attends Obama"s meeting on fiscal cliff deficit

Lordtekk

Well-Known Member
Love how you are always calling names and say I'm resorting to insults. You have no argument except to talk about FOX talking points. When the economy runs into the ditch the Repubs will win it back. People don't like fiscal austerity, but people will eventually realize it's necessary. Hope I'm actually eligible for this buyout so I can get on down the road before the train wreck.
I only retaliate when names are called,that fiscal austerity is really working out in Europe huh ? Yup they are going on their 2nd recession. You guys have all the answers,all the solutions,speak for the entire population and yet no one likes you,and everyone thinks your crazy. That sure is progress. And you Van are always wrong,but never admit it or change the subject. You make absolutely no sense and you always have to have the last word. Only reason the Republic Party still has the Congress is because of gerrymandering,but 2014 they will lose it. If you like you you can keep this post and re read it in 2014. Oh yeah while you are leaving take the rest of them with you because the only place where your ideology is welcome is,I can't even think of a country that conforms to the Republic Party ideology. Must get lonely. Or wait invade a country and take it over,wait that won't work either because it means you have to fight,you have no one to send to fight for you.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I only retaliate when names are called,that fiscal austerity is really working out in Europe huh ? Yup they are going on their 2nd recession. You guys have all the answers,all the solutions,speak for the entire population and yet no one likes you,and everyone thinks your crazy. That sure is progress. And you Van are always wrong,but never admit it or change the subject. You make absolutely no sense and you always have to have the last word. Only reason the Republic Party still has the Congress is because of gerrymandering,but 2014 they will lose it. If you like you you can keep this post and re read it in 2014. Oh yeah while you are leaving take the rest of them with you because the only place where your ideology is welcome is,I can't even think of a country that conforms to the Republic Party ideology. Must get lonely. Or wait invade a country and take it over,wait that won't work either because it means you have to fight,you have no one to send to fight for you.

Europe is having a recession because a number of countries way overspent and now are paying the piper. There you go with the constant name calling. Have you not figured out by now that as long as you and others are going to attack Republicans, sometimes rather viciously, I'm going to post a retort? Keep it up, you won't get that last word as long as you make inane and unfounded remarks. By the way, the military is majority Republican, and they do an excellent job fighting.
 

hypo hanna

Well-Known Member
Turn on the horrid FOX news and see if they are talking about the election being stolen. Listen to Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh. It's not happening, never happened. This is just more of the same demonizing Republicans that goes on with every liberal outlet. You so want to believe it's true you accept it. They may have gotten the election right, doesn't mean they aren't pushing an agenda.

That's your facts? LOL!
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
That's your facts? LOL!

Well I'm sorry, LOL, that I hadn't planned today to take a poll of several thousand Democrats to get their opinions on how crazy they think Republicans are. Right, no one is saying it on air or in the papers but 10's of millions of Republicans think the election was stolen. Right. Where's your "facts" other than this one obviously biased poll? You're the one that put it out there, come on Hippy, where's your proof?
 

Lordtekk

Well-Known Member
Europe is having a recession because a number of countries way overspent and now are paying the piper. There you go with the constant name calling. Have you not figured out by now that as long as you and others are going to attack Republicans, sometimes rather viciously, I'm going to post a retort? Keep it up, you won't get that last word as long as you make inane and unfounded remarks. By the way, the military is majority Republican, and they do an excellent job fighting.
Where is your evidence that they are Republic or is that another thing you pulled out your ass ? You came up with that not me now I retaliate. Do you ever listen to yourself ? The lies you spew ?
These Military Times survey results show that support for the Republican Party among senior members of the Army, the group most likely to identify as Republican, declined significantly between 2004 and 2006 before leveling off at about 49% in 2007. Also interesting is that the data show no corresponding change in support for the Democratic Party. One day you will use Google to back up your crap,are you not
[FONT=Georgia, Century, Times, serif]embarrassed yet ? Wait you are a Republic Party member so I guess not.[/FONT]
 

Lordtekk

Well-Known Member
Well I'm sorry, LOL, that I hadn't planned today to take a poll of several thousand Democrats to get their opinions on how crazy they think Republicans are. Right, no one is saying it on air or in the papers but 10's of millions of Republicans think the election was stolen. Right. Where's your "facts" other than this one obviously biased poll? You're the one that put it out there, come on Hippy, where's your proof?
Need I say more I predicted he would say it,and he did. Wow that is so sad.
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
Europe is having a recession because a number of countries way overspent and now are paying the piper. There you go with the constant name calling. Have you not figured out by now that as long as you and others are going to attack Republicans, sometimes rather viciously, I'm going to post a retort? Keep it up, you won't get that last word as long as you make inane and unfounded remarks. By the way, the military is majority Republican, and they do an excellent job fighting.
Austerity measures haven't helped.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Where is your evidence that they are Republic or is that another thing you pulled out your ass ? You came up with that not me now I retaliate. Do you ever listen to yourself ? The lies you spew ?
These Military Times survey results show that support for the Republican Party among senior members of the Army, the group most likely to identify as Republican, declined significantly between 2004 and 2006 before leveling off at about 49% in 2007. Also interesting is that the data show no corresponding change in support for the Democratic Party. One day you will use Google to back up your crap,are you not
embarrassed yet ? Wait you are a Republic Party member so I guess not.

But according to your post Republicans are still the major group in the military. You're the one who said Republicans send others out to fight but look at all those fighting Repubs. By the way, why don't you cite more recent figures rather than in the thick of the fighting under Bush? You know why, the majority of the military knows Obama and the Dems would gut the military in a heartbeat if they had control of the House now that the wars are essentially over.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Austerity measures haven't helped.

I'm sorry, are you under the impression there's a quick fix, then back to spending as usual? It's going to take a generation to undo what Obama as well as the liberal Europeans have done. And there's no will by the majority to do what's necessary. We are screwed.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Need I say more I predicted he would say it,and he did. Wow that is so sad.

How can you, or anyone else, prove that millions of Republicans think the election was stolen, then laugh it off as if you know better, even though it's just one poll saying so? Sad is right. Just a question, do Dems need to lie in order to keep breathing? Just curious...
 

bbsam

Moderator
Staff member
How can you, or anyone else, prove that millions of Republicans think the election was stolen, then laugh it off as if you know better, even though it's just one poll saying so? Sad is right. Just a question, do Dems need to lie in order to keep breathing? Just curious...

The same way millions of republicans think he's muslim or not American. Not like they make a secret of their goofiness.
 

hypo hanna

Well-Known Member
Well I'm sorry, LOL, that I hadn't planned today to take a poll of several thousand Democrats to get their opinions on how crazy they think Republicans are. Right, no one is saying it on air or in the papers but 10's of millions of Republicans think the election was stolen. Right. Where's your "facts" other than this one obviously biased poll? You're the one that put it out there, come on Hippy, where's your proof?

Pollsters are only as good as their results. If it doesn't stand up to scrutiny by other pollsters and the press, they loose standing.
I have searched and have yet to find any non partisan entity that disputes this particular question on this particular poll.
PPP is left leaning but their polls still have to stand up to scrutiny. You may not like their questions or their results but unless someone other then ax to grind FOX, drudge, Limbaugh et al contest it, I tend to believe the results.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Pollsters are only as good as their results. If it doesn't stand up to scrutiny by other pollsters and the press, they loose standing.
I have searched and have yet to find any non partisan entity that disputes this particular question on this particular poll.
PPP is left leaning but their polls still have to stand up to scrutiny. You may not like their questions or their results but unless someone other then ax to grind FOX, drudge, Limbaugh et al contest it, I tend to believe the results.

All I know is inspite of known left leaning organizations like the NY Times verifying that Bush won, many liberals were very vocal in their belief that the election was stolen from Gore. Heard that for years. Now y'all are trying to put that on Republicans, but no one is saying it except for extremely small fringe groups on the 'net. No mainstream politician, pundit, radio personality, FOX News, you name it, are saying this. Do you honestly think they'd ignore such a thing if they felt the election was rigged? The Democrats didn't ignore it in 2000, even some in 2004. And there were widespread claims by Democrats of voter disenfranchisement in those elections yet not one lawsuit was filed concerning voter disenfranchisement. Did you find any non partisan entity that agreed with those results? And you make my case...FOX, Drudge, Limbaugh et al aren't disputing it, or even talking about it. Everything I've heard and read is the Republicans feel too many Republicans stayed home because Romney is a Mormon and not conservative enough. They've pretty much broken down the election from every angle EXCEPT that it was stolen.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The same way millions of republicans think he's muslim or not American. Not like they make a secret of their goofiness.

But that's just it, millions make it known, but not hearing anything about a stolen election except from a fired courier who thinks FOX isn't conservative enough.
 

Lordtekk

Well-Known Member
How can you, or anyone else, prove that millions of Republicans think the election was stolen, then laugh it off as if you know better, even though it's just one poll saying so? Sad is right. Just a question, do Dems need to lie in order to keep breathing? Just curious...
and yet you believed it when they claimed Romney was going to win.Hypocrisy meet Van.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
and yet you believed it when they claimed Romney was going to win.Hypocrisy meet Van.

How am I hypocritical believing Romney was going to win? He mopped the floor with Obama in the first debate. He decided to look Presidential in the 3rd debate and not argue too much, or bring up Benghazi. Then Sandy happened and Obama got the chance to look Presidential while Romney all but disappeared. I believed enough people were worried about the economy and the spending that they'd come out in droves to vote for Romney. But 3 million less Republicans voted for Romney than for McCain and it's believed they weren't impressed with Romney's character and were worried about his religion. It was the difference in the election, which wasn't a landslide for Obama. Frankly I think the country is so polarized now that the opportunity to have civil conversations on issues is over. Seems the technology has magnified the differences to the point that one has to wonder if the country will survive intact.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Just Fine thanks for asking.

Evil teachers unions, public employee unions, the embassy attack, and "free stuff" for those pesky Negroes and Meskins...did I miss any talking points? Oh, and Obama wants to be a God, and he's a secret Muslim from Kenya who is also a Socialist who hates America. I heard it from a US Marine, Rush, and Bill O'Reilly, so all of it must be true.
 

Lordtekk

Well-Known Member
How am I hypocritical believing Romney was going to win? He mopped the floor with Obama in the first debate. He decided to look Presidential in the 3rd debate and not argue too much, or bring up Benghazi. Then Sandy happened and Obama got the chance to look Presidential while Romney all but disappeared. I believed enough people were worried about the economy and the spending that they'd come out in droves to vote for Romney. But 3 million less Republicans voted for Romney than for McCain and it's believed they weren't impressed with Romney's character and were worried about his religion. It was the difference in the election, which wasn't a landslide for Obama. Frankly I think the country is so polarized now that the opportunity to have civil conversations on issues is over. Seems the technology has magnified the differences to the point that one has to wonder if the country will survive intact.
Blah Blah Blah,you believed the polls when they suit your ideals,other than that they are liberal. You lost Obama won and like always you make excuse after excuse,but you still lost. Man talk about delusional.You Republics can never admit you are wrong can you ? Don't answer that,I can get more sane answers from a wall.
 
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