He is from Mexico so how is he a citizen ? By marriage ? How did he get here ? Across whatever they cross ? Like I said self loathing.
Mr. Smith attends Obama"s meeting on fiscal cliff deficit
- Thread starter RTURNSONLY
- Start date
Still free money any way you try to wash it,so are you turning yours down Conservative ? By the way I'm not complaining I work for the same company remember ? Make the same money as you and have the same pension as you.
It's not free money, it's part of your compensation package. You earned it and get it in exchange for devoting your life to this one company. Do you not understand that? By the way if you live in New York and have as many years as I got on mine(19), you'll get a considerably higher pension than me based on much higher pay. I quit and started over at $10.65hr so my best 5 year average before the pension was terminated was only $42k.
If ignorance is bliss you are truly a happy man.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
They are the 2 Hispanics who voted for Mitt Romney....in the whole country.
Bill O'Reilly refers to Social Security and Welfare as "earned" entitlements, food stamps, etc as "unearned" entitlements. By the way USAToday had an article last week about how Social Security is now spending many tens of billions more than it's taking in, and that it needs to be addressed very soon as it's unsustainable. Changes need to be made, and those changes must be enacted to protect the poor who truly need SS, and I include the middle class in that category too of poor.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Cubans are very Republican, they know first hand what socialism looks like.
The GOP has been demonizing Castro for years and making hay off the "threat" Cuba poses to the US.
Well whatever you do in terms of limiting SS, you are basically taking money from yourself. If they abolished it, I expect every penny back, if not I will be suing the gov't. Why is 10's of billions unsustainable? We can rebuild a major region every year at many more billions, we can send aid to every Tom, Dick and Harry for many more billions. Kickbacks to business, etc, etc. But we won't take care of people that have actually put the money in themselves? Everything you take away means a whole other series of issues, that will be more human and still cost a lot. Money is a man made thing.
Repubs/Wall Street want individuals to invest in their retirement instead because they know they then have their money lasso'd in and in their control. They'll connive another crash and take trillions of our money and say "that's how open markets work and it was a correction". They are sad because they cannot touch SS in any way, can't even garnish it in any way. Wall Street itself breaks one of the golden rules, "Never trust someone else with your money".
Cuba sent troops into a number of countries, including Angola and Nicaragua. Che Guevara got himself killed fomenting revolution in Bolivia. And of course there was the Cuban missile crisis. Hopefully when Fidel dies relations can be normalized but please don't tell me Fidel is just some innocent, misunderstood guy. Wrote a term paper on him in high school.
We are running a trillion dollar plus deficit now, and 60 or 70 billion dollars more than we take in for SS is a big chunk of that deficit. I'm not talking about ending it, just taking measures that will keep it solvent. Frankly there should be a means test and everyone with X amount of assets should be excluded from receiving a benefit. If all we have is what is taken in in payroll taxes plus the matching funds from employers then around 75% of benefits can be paid. Congress spent the excess taken in that was supposed to be invested so they need to figure out how to keep the program solvent for those who need it. Where MFE goes wrong is saying Republicans call them entitlements as if they are a gift. Actually the government calls them entitlements as in citizens are entitled to them as long as they meet the qualifications. Entitlement spending is a big part, if not the biggest part of Federal spending. That's where the deficit spending or debt has become a huge issue. Servicing the interest on the national debt is taking more and more of the federal budget and making it more difficult to pay for entitlements, military, infrastructure and other federal programs. Someday soon hard choices have to be made and the budget has gotten so out of hand that the proposed increase in taxes on the rich will only make a tiny dent in the problem. We have to have serious cuts in spending and going over the fiscal cliff as it's called may be a good start. The Repubs want two things, the end of matching funds and/or investing the money into the stock market. Either way they benefit but I think SS is too important a program to play around with.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Fidel may have still been relevant 20 years ago, but no longer. South Florida remembers him for obvious reasons.
Ask a Cuban in Havana to go out into the street and start yelling "Fidel and Raul must go!" and see what he says.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
The only thing that made Cuba relevant was their former relationship with the Soviet Union. They do not pose a "Communist Threat" or a military threat to the US.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
...perhaps but they could prove to be a consumer of American made goods...
Actually to me they are the perfect Republics,their country is Socialist,they leave and expect the United States to liberate their country while they are here basking in the sunshine while their fellow countrymen suffer. They won't pull themselves by their boot straps and liberate their own country they expect someone else to do it for them. Yup Perfect RepublicsCubans are very Republican, they know first hand what socialism looks like.
You never heard of the Bay of Pigs? Oh that's right, you are Spanish. Still smarting over getting kicked out of Cuba I suspect.
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Bay of Pigs fiasco..almost 50 years ago, and very relevant back then because Cuba had a direct relationship with the Soviet Union. Today, Cuba is a threat only if they cut a deal with one of our real enemies to position weapons just off our coastline. Think that maybe we monitor that like hawks? You bet we do.
True, but he was saying the Cuban exiles want others to fight for them. Castro might have actually been overthrown if Kennedy hadn't thrown the exiles under the bus.
