New; advice please.

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Guy Montag, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. Guy Montag

    Guy Montag New Member

    I started loading trucks in the AM, then they moved me to SPA, said I was making too many mistakes. I have no idea what the mistakes were as no one was able to explain (wrong truck?, wrong shelf?, no idea).
    I enjoy the SPA a lot. Fast paced, sort of boring though since I'm moving less, but easy as :censored2::censored2::censored2::censored2::censored2:. I mentioned PT Sup to my Manager and before the shift was over I had filled out a TMS.
    I don't know know that I want it now though. I heard a lot of bad things about it, but I could use the money and would like to make a career out of UPS. I just need to have some reassurance that it'll be a liveable wage. I make about $43,000-$45,000 a year with UPS and my full-time gig. Got a wife and baby to support.
    How long will I wait on SPA before becoming a driver or making close to that money? How long as a PT Sup until I'm making that much money?
    Please help?!?!
  2. gorilla75jdw

    gorilla75jdw Active Member

    it just depends on where your location is , how big your hub(facilty)is , how many employees are there , how much volume is ran per sort per day ?? and many more factors . If you could provide some of those answers , Im sure you could get some pretty decent answers to your question .
  3. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    Part time sup is generally a dead end job. Very few people ever move up from there. Never have I seen a part time sup move into driving and with the downsizing of management positions recently it would be very difficult to get into full time management.

    The wait to become full time driver can be very long depending on you facility. It is based on openings and seniority of the people wanting them. In my building thay cant get people that want to drive so I think the wait is only a couple people.
  4. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Look at it this way---as hourly you only have to take crap from one side but management gets it from both sides. Your call.
  5. nystripe96

    nystripe96 Active Member

    If you're in a smaller hub the wait for driver can be very long. PT supe....They began pushing me to do it after only 5 months. Just seeing the stress imposed upon them by management is enough for me to say no. There's a PT supe on my PD whose been doing it for 9 years without advancement. I say just wait it out
  6. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    I agree 100% 5 months as a casual they told me "You can be a supervisor now or wait for a driver position but the chances of becoming a driver from a casual are slim to none." Like you, seeing all the BS they go through i said i'll take my chances with waiting for a driver position.
  7. CaliforniaPaul

    CaliforniaPaul Active Member

    If you didn't know how to load, how can you supervise a loader??
  8. Guy Montag

    Guy Montag New Member

    That's thing though, they were all about me going for the PT Sup. Which leads me to think there weren't as many issues with my loading as presented. I'm not an idiot and I know how to follow direction. I couldn't tell you what the mistakes were that I was making. Less then a week after they pulled me off of loading, they threw me, out of all the people there, back to loading to fill in for someone. I though maybe they want me to go for the PT Sup so then they can fire me without the Union involvement. But that seems like a stretch, I get along great with my co-workers, supervisors and Managers, so I doubt they'd be that manipulative, but once again, I'm new to UPS so I don't really know.

    I can see dealing with crap from both sides will be annoying. But I'm getting close to 30 and would like to provide something more for my son and any future kids than I'm providing now. If dealing with crap from people gets me more money to provide more for my family, I'll talk it, after all it's just a job, right?

    And gorilla75jdw, We send close to 50 trucks a day. Since I've started working Sort, I heard the numbers 3,500-4,000 get thrown around, not sure if that's units per shift or what (once again, I've only been there a few weeks, learning more everyday).
    I heard someone say it's a 5-6 year wait for a driver position to open. A lot of the drivers look young, and I'm the 2nd to last on the seniority list. PT Sup should theoretically be a fast track alternative, but like nystripe96 said, 9 years with no mobility is not something I want to find myself stuck in.
  9. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Are you insinuating that supervisor know how to do stuff?
  10. klolx

    klolx New Member

    My PT sup was an unloader before he became a sup but he's good at loading. He said he learned from helping the loaders when they are stacked out.
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    You don't have to know how to do the job in order to supervise the workers.

    When I was military I was in charge of vehicle maintenance and I am not a car guy.
  12. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    those who cant do, supervise
  13. cino321

    cino321 Active Member

    What the hell is he doing working? lol
  14. DS

    DS Fenderbender

  15. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain IE boogeyman

  16. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain IE boogeyman

    total bull:censored2::censored2::censored2::censored2:

    everyone has their place, some are meant for loading, some are meant for driving, some are meant to sit at a computer and instruct little Brown trucks on a screen
  17. curiousbrain

    curiousbrain Well-Known Member

    I agree and would like to echo the sentiments of TearsInRain.

    I've been with UPS for less than 2 years, and have gone from Preloader, to PT Sup, and am now being offered full-time positions by several people. Is that because "they" want to promote incompetent people? I doubt it.

    Now, don't get me wrong, there are total morons in part-time/full-time management positions - maybe more often than some might like; however, to imply that "very few move up" or that "it would be very difficult to move into full-time" is, speaking for my geographical location, categorically false.

    That being said, it is possible that this UPS "paradise" is limited to my little region. Then again, all the part-time supervisors who were my bosses when I was hired have now been made full-time.