New Video! Is the buyout even worth it?

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It has to be able to pay a FTer's bills, not a part timer's.

The buyout is only for drivers.

He he did 29.3 years
He knows way more than you....

 

[tourists24]

Do they teach arrogance at Union school?

Well if that's not the pot calling the kettle black...............

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

This buyout is NOT an extra-contractual agreement.

By definition, wouldn't ANY agreement not laid out in the contract be extra-contractual?

 

[UnionStrong]

Well if that's not the pot calling the kettle black...............

Now I get why people can’t stand him.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Now I get why people can’t stand him.

You are a slow learner....

 

[UnionStrong]

You are a slow learner....

Evidently

 

[AllTheBellsAndWhistles123]

Well if that's not the pot calling the kettle black...............

I never went to Union school and you are confusing confidence and arrogance.

 

[AllTheBellsAndWhistles123]

By definition, wouldn't ANY agreement not laid out in the contract be extra-contractual?

Only for insurance contracts and employment agreements.

 

[tourists24]

I never went to Union school and you are confusing confidence and arrogance.

you don't have to go to union school to be arrogant. I'm afraid you are the one confused. Arrogant is probably "one" of the first words most on here would use to describe you. I thought you said once you retired you were done with this place? You sure gave others a hard time for not doing so

 

[Thebrownblob]

Do they teach arrogance at Union school?

Every Union official that I dealt with over my 29.3 years had more arrogance than any officer or upper NCO in my 8 years of active duty. Whether it was Fat Fred or the Hamburglar in Potsdam or, more recently, the officers in Local 294, they all came off as arrogant. I offered to help in their organizing efforts at our local Amazon warehouse and they basically told me to mind my own business.

You mentioned contracts—-I don’t recall ever signing any document stating that I promised to stay until I was eligible for retirement.

This buyout is NOT an extra-contractual agreement.

Union school lol

I cannot speak to who you’ve met and their arrogance but I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody more arrogant than you and I haven’t seen you be right about very much

 

[AllTheBellsAndWhistles123]

Union school lol

I cannot speak to who you’ve met and their arrogance but I don’t think I’ve ever met anybody more arrogant than you and I haven’t seen you be right about very much

I was right about the framework of this buyout—-yes, my numbers on both the yearly amount and number of days to decide were on the high side, but I was spot on with its intent.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Only for insurance contracts and employment agreements.

Here’s what I can promise you in regards to if this is contractual, or violates the contract . You don’t know, none of us will know for sure until it’s ran through the grievance procedure.

Sean O’Brien’s biggest mistake was saying it was illegal, which probably is a standard too high. At least too high to stop this immediately.

And perhaps we should’ve negotiated stronger language in article 6, although bringing that back to the membership would’ve been a tough sale because most people wouldn’t have cared. I can promise you article 6 was not something people were discussing during contract proposal meetings.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I was right about the framework of this buyout—-yes, my numbers on both the yearly amount and number of days to decide were on the high side, but I was spot on with its intent.

You were spot on with something all of us already knew. Big deal what we didn’t know was how much they were going to offer. And it’s a terrible deal for a solid 95% of the people. And a questionable deal for everyone else, because frankly, you have to trust that the company will follow through with their offer. And not play games.

 

[AllTheBellsAndWhistles123]

You were spot on with something all of us already knew. Big deal what we didn’t know was how much they were going to offer. And it’s a terrible deal for a solid 95% of the people. And a questionable deal for everyone else, because frankly, you have to trust that the company will follow through with their offer. And not play games.

Have you clicked on the QR code or gone to the buyout website yet or did you, like most of the others, toss your letter in to the recycling bin once you read “$1,800 per year”?

I Googled “Are buyouts extra contractual?” and the AI generated results were very interesting.

IMO UPS will review the results and will up the ante early next year.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Have you clicked on the QR code or gone to the buyout website yet or did you, like most of the others, toss your letter in to the recycling bin once you read “$1,800 per year”?

I Googled “Are buyouts extra contractual?” and the AI generated results were very interesting.

IMO UPS will review the results and will up the ante early next year.

Yes, I went to the site. Mostly to answer questions for other people, but the offer was pathetic. Don’t recall any QR code on my piece of paper. I just typed in the address.

 

[AllTheBellsAndWhistles123]

Yes, I went to the site. Mostly to answer questions for other people, but the offer was pathetic. Don’t recall any QR code on my piece of paper. I just typed in the address.

Yes, the offer is pathetic, but if you were already heading out the door why not do it with a few $$$ in your pocket?

It would make zero sense for anyone with 29 years or less of service to even consider taking the buyout.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Yes, the offer is pathetic, but if you were already heading out the door why not do it with a few $$$ in your pocket?

It would make zero sense for anyone with 29 years or less of service to even consider taking the buyout.

Pretty sure I said 5% of people might be interested, but they’re taking a chance on trusting a deal with this company.

And I’m pretty sure the leadership at the international understands they’re not going to stop this deal they’re trying to stop the next deal that you’re suggesting might be coming.

 

[AllTheBellsAndWhistles123]

, but they’re taking a chance on trusting a deal with this company.

I guess we’ll find out 8/1 and 9/1.

 

[UnionStrong]

I never went to Union school and you are confusing confidence and arrogance.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I never went to Union school and you are confusing confidence and arrogance.

When you’re confident, and you have no right to be, that’s called arrogance