New Video! Is the buyout even worth it?
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Thebrownblob
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I love walking up to people‘s door to deliver and their DoorDash has been sitting outside for 30 minutes in the heat or cold!
AllTheBellsAndWhistles123
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I use the one Samuel L Jackson endorses on TV.
The payments are interest free but that’s not the point.
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Thebrownblob
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I'll use my buyout money to pay it off..
Thebrownblob
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I'm not purring food on layaway
Thebrownblob
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At least layaway didn’t charge interest. And there was some delayed gratification.. all the stores got rid of layaway and replaced it with credit cards with interest.
AllTheBellsAndWhistles123
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DoorDash does not charge interest but again that is not the point.
Thebrownblob
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No, they already add the interest in a $10 hamburger is 24 bucks
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
That's the spirit!
Hell yeah
DELACROIX
In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
Talk about timing just saw a quick glance at James Hoffa (Jr) ‘s interview with Fox. I was around during most of that time…brought back some pleasant memories..
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Then why didn’t he just say that, instead of all the smoke and mirrors.
Here’s why.
Hey buyout recipient. I want you to reject that $50K check, not retire and stand strong with all of us fighting this buyout that’s not really hurting anyone.
As a matter of fact, it is actually opening up some jobs for the new guys, but hey, reject it anyway and keep slaving say.
And I might agree somewhat with that premise. We got what we got because of the Union and because of us standing together.
Except for the fact that it really isn’t hurting anyone. Nobody is forced to take it. It’s not lowering wages. It’s not leaving people on the hook for healthcare. If you can’t afford healthcare on your own, don’t take the buyout.
Like I said, most of these buyout recipients are retiring anyway. This just pushed it up a few months to a year.
If O’Brien loses a few dollars in dues money, I have no issues of raising our dues a few dollars to help keep the Union strong.
Or maybe O’Brien could take a pay cut to help out.
Thebrownblob
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I don’t think anybody’s been more critical of his reaction to this than me, but it’s difficult for me to think I could trust any deal with this company on my own.
As of the last year, here they haven’t even paid off vacations when people retire, even though they know they owe it.
He should’ve been upfront with the membership about the fact that he probably cannot stop this.
And the fact remains any deal that UPS would offer you upfront is the lowest number possible. I’ve also said I don’t begrudge anyone who has been grinding here for enough years to think this deal is good enough for them. Take the money and run.
But for most of us, this is a slap in the face a very unserious offer.
On the issue of dues money, I knownthere is quite a number of smaller locals who have been hurt both by building closures and the loss of membership moving to other locals, and now a possible double whammy of losing, high paying dues members.
Seems like an interesting way to defeat the union by shrinking it one local at a time.
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I don't trust them either. Give me my check first before my supposed last day worked. I am not retiring before I get the check you agreed to. If I don't see that check, how can you make me retire. They can't.
I know. Maybe they won't let you work and then you need the Union's help and will they help a prostitute?
Well, it is a signed contract. You actually don't need the Union if it goes sideways. A Lawyer will do just fine.
I know, time and money. But most are retiring anyway and UPS cannot take their retirement, or healthcare away.
That's why most wait until after peak to retire. They take their 7 weeks of vacation and then retire, because they know once they retire, they may never see that money.
The great and powerful O'Brien. Can't stop this. What would that look do to the Union? He will never admit it.
It's not the lowest number possible. It's on par with other big corporation buyouts. Just google it.
If the Union negotiated it? It may have been more, or UPS may have not offered it because it would no longer make financial sense. You know UPS only cares about one thing....Money.
It's not for most of us. It's for those with one foot out the door already to give them that nudge. Retire now, with $50K, instead of waiting 6 months.
Yep. Most of our dues money goes to the Locals, not the International. But most of these buyout recipients were going to retire shortly anyway. Making it so that they cannot retire now and wait 6 months is just kicking the "high paying dues" can down the road a few months. It's going to happen anyway.
Not their endgame, at least not yet. Sure, they would love to lose the Union.
But for the foreseeable future, it is about shrinking the workforce, consolidating building just to appease the stockholders and make that almighty dollar.
MyTripisCut
Never pumped gas
Unless they adapt and organize more units. Diversity is key to a healthy local.
AllTheBellsAndWhistles123
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My former local (687) covered 3 centers, 2 of which were 90 miles away from the local office and each in the opposite direction.
